the cost of knowledge

the cost of knowledge

[Joyal, André]

Dear category theorists,

This is to let you know (in case you are not) that there 
is presently a campain to boycott Elsevier.

http://thecostofknowledge.com/

Best,
André


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Re: the cost of knowledge

[Eduardo J. Dubuc]

On 28/01/12 12:58, Joyal, André wrote:
> Dear category theorists,
>
> This is to let you know (in case you are not) that there
> is presently a campain to boycott Elsevier.
>
> http://thecostofknowledge.com/
>
> Best,
> André
>

As Andre says in the link, mathematical knowledge should be free.

But a problem in boycotting Elsevier is that jobs and grants depend on 
the dreadful system based on the impact factor of journals.

A good way of making mathematical knowledge free is to send all 
mathematical knowledge to the arXiv.

Also, to upload as much as possible mathematical knowledge to the net, 
legally or illegally. To create a math-megaupload.

e.d.




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Re: the cost of knowledge

[Joyal, André]

Dear Eduardo,

Supporting the boycott is probably easier for an established mathematician like myself
than for a young mathematician without a permanent position.

On the other hand, solving this problem is important for the young generation,
since it concerns the scientific life of the future.

I agree that there are other modes of action,
like putting our papers on the arXiv. I am strongly supporting that.
But it does not address the problem of our libraries which are forced to spend huge sums of money
to buy knowledges produced by universities, not by publishing houses.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/29/academic-publishers-murdoch-socialist

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/16/academic-publishers-enemies-science?CMP=twt_fd

Best,
André


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Re: the cost of knowledge

[David Yetter]

Part of the point of a mass organized boycott is to collapse the "impact factor" of Elsevier journals.

Of course, the boycott might be even more effective if scientists were to refuse to play along with
the "impact factor" charade and en masse declare that they will ignore the corrupt statistic when
judging grant proposals and job candidates.

I see some biologists have signed on.  Getting the boycott to spread beyond the mathematical
sciences and to include a few Nobel laureates as well as Fields Medalists would make it a whole
lot more effective.  

(Of course, I though ArXiV already was a "Math-Megaupload".)

Best Thoughts,
D. Yetter

On 28 Jan 2012, at 14:30, Eduardo J. Dubuc wrote:

> On 28/01/12 12:58, Joyal, André wrote:
>> Dear category theorists,
>> 
>> This is to let you know (in case you are not) that there
>> is presently a campain to boycott Elsevier.
>> 
>> http://thecostofknowledge.com/
>> 
>> Best,
>> André
>> 
> 
> As Andre says in the link, mathematical knowledge should be free.
> 
> But a problem in boycotting Elsevier is that jobs and grants depend on the dreadful system based on the impact factor of journals.
> 
> A good way of making mathematical knowledge free is to send all mathematical knowledge to the arXiv.
> 
> Also, to upload as much as possible mathematical knowledge to the net, legally or illegally. To create a math-megaupload.
> 
> e.d.
> 

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Re: cost of knowledge

[Eduardo J. Dubuc]

Please Moderator, let this come across. The subject seems to me 
pertinent to all mathematicians, including category theorists.

In private mail I was told there is already a kind of math-megaupload, 
the following:  <http://library.nu/>. The problem is that to get an 
account on should be invited.

e.d.

On 28/01/12 19:27, Joyal, André wrote:
> Dear Eduardo,
>
> Supporting the boycott is probably easier for an established
> mathematician like myself
> than for a young mathematician without a permanent position.
>
> On the other hand, solving this problem is important for the young
> generation,
> since it concerns the scientific life of the future.
>
> I agree that there are other modes of action,
> like putting our papers on the arXiv. I am strongly supporting that.
> But it does not address the problem of our libraries which are forced to
> spend huge sums of money
> to buy knowledges produced by universities, not by publishing houses.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/29/academic-publishers-murdoch-socialist
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/16/academic-publishers-enemies-science?CMP=twt_fd
>
> Best,
> André

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Re: the cost of knowledge

[Eduardo J. Dubuc]

Registration for library.nu is no longer possible.  See:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/librarynu/115557691886871

e.d.


Library.nu is closed on registration. I have no control over this. Main
reason is Library.nu ranked 7th in the world for usage of its type. Now
they have legal maters to deal with. They are trimming back there usage
by closing registration. However this has not only happening to
Library.nu. Its happening all over the web. SOPA and collages are trying
to shut down free software sites. SOPA never passed, But is being done
under stealth. Next few months you will see less and less of the web
free. Government of the United States is after file sharing host.
Passing DNS blocks on many countries. The ending goal is the end of the
internet as we know it. A move to a internet 2 type system ran by
governments of the world. Once there is more using internet 2 and all
major search providers switch.(Google, Bing, Aol, Yahoo, Facebook and
twitter) They will shut down Internet 1. New system will be a cloud
based system where the government can track every file on the web. (Bot
AI) Before a file goes to your pc. it must pass threw a cloud system.
Before a user can connect to the internet, They will have to go threw
valid ID checks on the cloud system. This is a move to control media and
the world in the end. We will lose the last freedom we have. Political
members of our governments don't work for us. They work for a global
agenda to control us all. They must play there parts in censoring the
web if they want there power and money in return. (Just greed)

If Library.nu ever opened back up registration it will be a miracle.
Legal maters is the main key why there can be no invites. If you have an
account don't over use it else you will be blocked as well.

I have no control over accounts. Nor can I add new members to there site.

However this is why I made Essentials For Knowledge. A way for us to
still be able to share info and get textbooks and e-books on the web. I
have spent the last 2 weeks looking for the best websites. also spent
over 80+ hours testing them posting them in a table html. Then answering
questions. I spent most of the time searching for these sites. There is
1000s of crappy spam sites out there. Some where not even worth calling
an e-book site. All sites I found good where ranked 5 stars max. but if
the site was based on what the users really wanted it was ranked 6 stars.

Sorry all I can not undo what has been done, however I have not been
sitting on my hands :)


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