From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/7181 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Yetter Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: the cost of knowledge Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:39:05 -0600 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: David Yetter NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327949326 31983 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2012 18:48:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:48:46 +0000 (UTC) To: categories Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Mon Jan 30 19:48:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpx.mta.ca ([138.73.1.4]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwHV-0007YD-AL for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:48:45 +0100 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:40139) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwGj-0003hE-2g; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:47:57 -0400 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwGj-0006Ck-7s for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:47:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:7181 Archived-At: Part of the point of a mass organized boycott is to collapse the "impact = factor" of Elsevier journals. Of course, the boycott might be even more effective if scientists were = to refuse to play along with the "impact factor" charade and en masse declare that they will ignore = the corrupt statistic when judging grant proposals and job candidates. I see some biologists have signed on. Getting the boycott to spread = beyond the mathematical sciences and to include a few Nobel laureates as well as Fields = Medalists would make it a whole lot more effective. =20 (Of course, I though ArXiV already was a "Math-Megaupload".) Best Thoughts, D. Yetter On 28 Jan 2012, at 14:30, Eduardo J. Dubuc wrote: > On 28/01/12 12:58, Joyal, Andr=E9 wrote: >> Dear category theorists, >>=20 >> This is to let you know (in case you are not) that there >> is presently a campain to boycott Elsevier. >>=20 >> http://thecostofknowledge.com/ >>=20 >> Best, >> Andr=E9 >>=20 >=20 > As Andre says in the link, mathematical knowledge should be free. >=20 > But a problem in boycotting Elsevier is that jobs and grants depend on = the dreadful system based on the impact factor of journals. >=20 > A good way of making mathematical knowledge free is to send all = mathematical knowledge to the arXiv. >=20 > Also, to upload as much as possible mathematical knowledge to the net, = legally or illegally. To create a math-megaupload. >=20 > e.d. >=20 [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]