From: Thorsten Palm <palm@iti.cs.tu-bs.de>
To: David Spivak <dspivak@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Weber <mark.weber.math@googlemail.com>,
categories list <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: question about discrete op-fibrations
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:07:21 +0100 (MET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1RtUMn-0000nX-Oi@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Rt94G-0003fq-B7@mlist.mta.ca>
[ To all, moderator in particular, and with apologies to David:
Please ignore my previous message. It contains a seriously wrong
piece of information. ]
Dear David,
This time the answer is "yes" for discrete C, "no" otherwise.
If C is discrete, the functor !_C : C-->1 is a discrete
op-fibration, so that the terminal objet (1,!_C) of Cat_{C/}
belongs to DOF(C).
Now let C contain a non-trivial morphism u : c_0-->c_1 and suppose
that (T,z) is terminal in DOF(C). Construct a category C_{c_1} by
freely adding to C an object d and a morphism v : d-->c_1. Then we
have an inclusion j : C-->C_{c_1}, which is a discrete op-fibration.
We obtain two morphisms (C_{c_1},j)-->(T,z) in DOF(C) by applying z on
the subcategory C and sending v to z(u) and the identity of z(c_1),
respectively. By terminality of (T,z) they have to be the same. But
since z is an op-fibration, z(u) cannot be an identity ---
contradiction.
(I hope Mark hasn't beaten me to it again.)
Thorsten
David Spivak hat am 01.02.12 geschrieben:
>
> I hope this isn't annoying, but what if I change the problem somewhat
> and take DOF(C) to be the full subcategory of Cat_{C/} spanned by the
> discrete opfibrations C-->D? Again I want to know whether DOF(C) has a
> terminal object. Under this definition, by setting C=empty-category we
> get DOF(C)=Cat, which does have a terminal object.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-03 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-01 0:03 David Spivak
2012-02-01 23:29 ` Mark Weber
[not found] ` <81982979-2217-4AC4-AEDD-154DB2EEAC7B@gmail.com>
2012-02-02 5:51 ` David Spivak
2012-02-03 14:07 ` Thorsten Palm [this message]
2012-02-02 10:22 ` Thorsten Palm
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