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From: "Fred E.J. Linton" <fejlinton@usa.net>
To: "André\" " <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
Cc: "categories" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Two_questions
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:37:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Siwnw-0002Zd-Ll@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)

Salut, André,

I'm ashamed how long it took me to come to this realization, but
you were absolutely correct in your surmise that, when one lets ...

> ... E' be the set obtained from E by
> adding copy p' of p. There are two embeddings u,u':E-->E',
> the first u is the inclusion of E in E', and the second u' is defined 
> by putting u'(p)=p' and u'(x)=x for x different than p.

... the resulting u' is the same as the result of conjugating all the values
of u by the transposition t that exchanges p with p'. Thus, the ...

> ... pair of homomorphisms h,h':E!-->E'! the equaliser of which
> is the stabiliser S(p) of p in E!.

... that arises is exactly the same as the pair Sammy's argument 
would adduce, and the only respect in which ...

> This last argument seems to differ from the argument you have presented.

is that for Sammy it was enough to observe that h and h' differ SOMEWHERE  
when E is more than just {p}, while what you observe is rather more, namely, 
that h and h' actually differ EVERYWHERE other than on S(p), i.e., that the 
ONLY place where h and h' do NOT differ is S(p) :-) .

> Am I making an error?

Only in thinking that seeming difference makes any real difference :-) .

I hope this clarifies matters, and I think it's worth showing categories@mta.


Cheers,  -- Fred




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             reply	other threads:[~2012-06-24 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-24 16:37 Fred E.J. Linton [this message]
     [not found] <485qFyBhu8160S03.1340588060@web03.cms.usa.net>
2012-06-25  3:00 ` Two questions Joyal, André
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-25  1:34 Two_questions Fred E.J. Linton
2012-06-23  3:09 Two questions Fred E.J. Linton
2012-06-23 15:40 ` Two_questions Joyal, André
2012-06-21 13:34 Two questions Michael Barr
2012-06-21 17:07 ` Ronnie Brown
2012-06-21 23:32 ` George Janelidze
     [not found] ` <E1ShqME-0001Sf-JM@mlist.mta.ca>
2012-06-22  0:25   ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

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