From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/7436 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Charles Wells Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Re: Terminology; categorical versus categorial. Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 16:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Charles Wells NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347110629 13825 80.91.229.3 (8 Sep 2012 13:23:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:23:49 +0000 (UTC) To: Graham White , categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Sat Sep 08 15:23:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpy.mta.ca ([138.73.1.128]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TAL0o-0002OR-Ut for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:23:51 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:46097) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TAL06-0007JR-4v; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:23:06 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAL0T-0004EL-Su for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:23:29 -0300 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:7436 Archived-At: Logicians also use "categorical" to refer to a theory with just one model. --Charles On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Graham White wrote: > One factor might be that the philosophical tradition also has the > terminology "category", but means rather different things by it, > and they tend to use "categorial" (I think, but I haven't really > checked). In particular, both Kant and Husserl use categorial a lot. > So (since we started using the word category later than the philosophers > did) saying "categorical" is a way of avoiding confusion. > > (Philosophers do use the pair hypothetical/categorical as a way of > talking about preconditions for assertions, but that's so different from > what we do that it's unlikely to cause confusion). All of this is off > the top of my head, and could do with checking. > > Graham > > On 06/09/12 19:39, peasthope@shaw.ca wrote: >> >> Apologies in case this story is in the archive. I failed to find it. >> >> According to online dictionaries, categorical and categorial can be >> synonyms. Almost everyone seems to prefer categorical whereas >> categorial comes from the simple rule of replacing the last vowel of >> the noun with "ial". >> >> So, is the preference for categorical just an inheritance from early >> authors? Is there a stronger reason to use it? Is the explanation >> in the archive? >> >> Thanks, ... Peter E. >> >> >> > [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]