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From: Michael Fourman <michael.fourman@ed.ac.uk>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: separable locale
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 12:35:41 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1UdPrt-00053e-C7@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MPEER-0001IG-8J@mailserv.mta.ca>

> Prof. Peter Johnstone wrote:
>> Dear Thomas,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that what Michael meant by "separable" was what
>> most topologists would call "second countable" -- i.e., countably
>> generated as a frame. (There are some topology textbooks in which
>> this condition is called "completely separable".)
>>
>> Peter Johnstone
>> ---------------------------------
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Thomas Streicher wrote:
>>
>>> Recently rereading Fourman's "Continuous Truth" I came across the term
>>> "separable locale" but could nowhere find an explanation. Does it mean a
>>> cHa A for which there exists a countable subset B such that ever a in
>>> A is
>>> the supremum of those b in B with b leq a. This would be the point free
>>> account of "second countable", i.e. having a countable basis.
>>> Of course, second countable T_) spaces are separable, i.e. have a
>>> countable
>>> dense set.
>>> Is this reading the "usual" one?
>>>
>>> Thomas
>

Thomas,

Peter is correct about my intention. More precisely, 'separable' is defined in
Formal Spaces (FS) (Fourman & Grayson, Brouwer Centenary Symposium) 3.12(c)
--- although I now find this account unnecessarily obscure.

What you say below is correct classically; constructively there is some subtlety.

A locale is separable iff it is presented (as in FS 1.1) by a countable language
with decidable \leq and countably many *inhabited* basic covers.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-17 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-10  3:32 Eduardo J. Dubuc
2013-05-17 12:35 ` Michael Fourman [this message]
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2009-07-08 17:06 gcuri
2009-07-05 20:54 Prof. Peter Johnstone
2009-06-30 13:26 Thomas Streicher

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