From: Uday S Reddy <u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk>
To: Ondrej Rypacek <ondrej.rypacek@gmail.com>
Cc: "categories\@mta.ca" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Limits in REL
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:55:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1X3JD8-0004TN-Mh@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1X2x7j-00012x-5O@mlist.mta.ca>
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Ondrej Rypacek writes:
> Hi all
>
> What is known about limits in REL , the (bi)category of sets and relations?
> I know there are biproducts; are there equalisers?
Professor Johnstone answered this question a few months ago as below. Since
REL is the category of *free algebras* for the powerset monad, there is very
little chance of a limit of such algebras being free again. To get decent
limits, you need to move to the Eilenberg-Moore category of the powerset
monad, viz., the category of complete semilattices.
Rel does have products and coproducts; they coincide (by self-duality)
and are just disjoint unions of sets. If's not hard to see that
a relation R \subseteq A \times B is a monomorphism A \to B iff the
map PA \to PB sending a subset of A to the set of all R-relatives
of its members is injective; dually for epimorphisms. Rel has very few
(co)limits other than (co)products; it doesn't even have splittings of
all idempotents. (All symmetric idempotents have splittings, but the
order-relation \leq \subseteq {0,1} \times {0,1} can't be split.)
However, I don't think that the self-duality is in any sense responsible
for the lack of (co)limits in Rel. The category of complete
join-semilattices is self-dual, and is complete and cocomplete.
Cheers,
Uday
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-04 11:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-03 10:57 Ondrej Rypacek
2014-07-04 11:55 ` Uday S Reddy [this message]
2014-07-04 13:09 ` Marco Grandis
2014-07-05 12:38 ` Pino Rosolini
2014-07-06 22:43 ` Pawel Sobocinski
2014-07-04 7:45 Peter Johnstone
2014-07-05 7:11 ` René Guitart
2014-07-07 10:03 Ondrej Rypacek
2014-07-25 12:51 ` Ondrej Rypacek
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