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From: Marco Grandis <grandis@dima.unige.it>
To: Toby Bartels <categories@TobyBartels.name>, categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: cleavages and choice
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:47:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1XEfm6-0006AV-Rw@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XEHhM-0002qJ-IC@mlist.mta.ca>

Dear Toby,

The theory of monoidal categories and bicategories is already written.
I may be interested in working with them, even though it is unpleasant to recur to choice for most (non-strict) structures of these kinds.
I have no interest in rewriting these theories in a different shape, using anafunctors or similar tools, or even study such variations if someone has given them.
Of course other people may prefer the way you are saying.
I just wanted to point out that there are many occasions where we are led to use choice - at least if we want to stay within 'classical' category theory, as expounded - say - in Mac Lane's text.
Regards,    Marco

 
On 03/ago/2014, at 18.30, Toby Bartels wrote:

> Marco Grandis <grandis@dima.unige.it> wrote in part:
> 
>> Yet you cannot define a bicategory of spans
>> without assuming that such a choice has been made;
>> in the same way as you cannot define the (good) monoidal structure of Ab
>> without recurring to a choice of tensor products.
> 
> A monoidal structure on a category C
> is a functor C x C -> C, an object of C (aka a functor 1 -> C),
> and various natural transformations satisfying some equations.
> If by "functor" we mean an anafunctor, then no choice is needed.
> 
> Presumably you are thinking along these lines when you write
> 
>> Unless you want to redefine bicategories
>> replacing the composition of arrows with an existence property.
> 
> My point is that anafunctors tell you automatically what to do.
> 
> Better yet, working in HoTT tells you automatically what to do.
> All of this only looks complicated from a set-based perspective.
> 
> 
> --Toby
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-04 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-20 16:18 Composition of Fibrations Jean Bénabou
2014-07-21 12:30 ` Steve Vickers
     [not found] ` <3E52EFB7-7955-47B1-9B00-9F6F6152BBC1@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2014-07-21 18:02   ` Jean Bénabou
     [not found]   ` <32AB43B0-58DA-4375-A4FD-6C84F4E527EA@wanadoo.fr>
2014-07-21 20:06     ` Steve Vickers
     [not found]     ` <6EFFC44F-E933-412B-89F2-C33B598D78B0@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2014-07-22  4:24       ` Jean Bénabou
     [not found]       ` <9747FDFD-FF71-4ACE-8DD3-538462A1B283@wanadoo.fr>
2014-07-22 14:55         ` Steve Vickers
     [not found]         ` <C1C93FE1-09FF-43C4-A6DA-D0883440A2FC@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2014-07-22 21:52           ` Ross Street
2014-07-22 23:25 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2014-07-30 15:06 ` cleavages and choice Thomas Streicher
     [not found] ` <20140730150643.GC19613@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2014-07-30 17:56   ` Jean Bénabou
2014-08-01 16:47     ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2014-08-02 10:58       ` Marco Grandis
2014-08-03 15:17         ` Paul Levy
2014-08-03 16:30         ` Toby Bartels
2014-08-04 14:47           ` Marco Grandis [this message]
     [not found]       ` <82157841-9DE2-4D99-8533-57AAB99CD236@dima.unige.it>
2014-08-02 15:24         ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
     [not found]     ` <53DBC493.5060700@dm.uba.ar>
2014-08-01 17:52       ` Jean Bénabou
2014-08-03  9:22     ` Thomas Streicher
2014-08-03 20:41       ` Eduardo J. Dubuc

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