From: Zhen Lin Low <zll22@cam.ac.uk>
To: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Cc: categories list <categories@mta.ca>, maw@mawarren.net
Subject: Re: Are Joyal--Tierney fibrations exponentiable?
Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 20:32:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1YojVl-0001XP-O0@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150502085012.GA6806@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your reply. Michael Warren also pointed out to me (in a
private reply) that one can construct dependent products for split
fibrations of internal groupoids. Unfortunately, this doesn't quite
answer my question.
As far as I know, Joyal--Tierney fibrations are cloven (or rather,
cleavable), but they do not have to split. After all, in the case
where the Grothendieck topos we start with is Set, the Joyal--Tierney
model structure coincides with the standard model structure on Grpd,
in which the fibrations really are just isofibrations in the usual
sense. (I assume the axiom of choice here; the theory of cofibrantly
generated model categories breaks down otherwise.)
Incidentally, since you bring up universes, perhaps I should explain
why I am focusing on Joyal--Tierney fibrations: I am wondering about
the strength of propositional resizing. As you say, the groupoid
interpretation makes sense constructively; but it is not hard to see
that propositional resizing in the groupoid interpretation implies a
weak form of the axiom of choice (namely, WISC) in the ambient set
theory. This essentially boils down to the difference between weak
equivalences (= fully faithful and essentially surjective on objects)
and equivalences. The difference disappears when one restricts to
Joyal--Tierney fibrations: this is a special case of the so-called
"Whitehead theorem" in model category theory.
--
Zhen Lin
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2015-05-01 13:04 Zhen Lin Low
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