From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/9293 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Blain Levy Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: An elementary question Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:00:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Paul Blain Levy NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502735132 1611 195.159.176.226 (14 Aug 2017 18:25:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:25:32 +0000 (UTC) To: Dana Scott , categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Mon Aug 14 20:25:18 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtp2.mta.ca ([198.164.44.40]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhK3A-00086Z-Bv for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:25:16 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:43804) by smtp2.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dhK37-00056L-1t; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:25:13 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhK2m-00059i-HU for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:24:52 -0300 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:9293 Archived-At: Dear Dana, Let (P_i | i in I) be a family of posets and < a well-ordering of I. The <-lexicographic sum of (P_i | i in I) is given by Sum_{i in I} P_i with (i,x) <= (j,y) if i=j and x<=y or i Set sending V to the set of <-lexicographic cocones from (P_i | i in I) to V. The <-lexicographic sum is a representing object for this functor. Therefore, for fixed (I,<), it extends uniquely to a functor Poset^I --> Poset making the representation natural. However, property (*) is not "categorical" in the sense of making sense in an arbitrary category. So this probably doesn't answer your question. Paul On 13/08/17 20:55, Dana Scott wrote: > The category of posets (= partially ordered sets) and monotone > maps is often used as an easy example -- different from the category > of sets -- that has products, coproducts, and is cartesian closed > but not a topos. > > Let P and Q be two posets. Define (P (<) Q) as the modified > coproduct where all the elements of P are made less than all the > elements of Q. QUESTION. Does (P (<) Q) have a nice categorical > definition as a functor in the category of posets? > [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]