From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/868 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mamuka Jibladze Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Chew on this Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:55:51 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241017265 27987 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:01:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:01:05 +0000 (UTC) To: Categories list Original-X-From: cat-dist Fri Sep 25 12:18:51 1998 Original-Received: (from Majordom@localhost) by mailserv.mta.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26766 for categories-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:33:17 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: mailserv.mta.ca: Majordom set sender to cat-dist@mta.ca using -f In-Reply-To: Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk Original-Lines: 32 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:868 Archived-At: One more comment on that fascinating ugly monoidal structure. Many years ago D. Pataraia as a student was asked to realise tensor product of vector spaces (V and W over k) as a colimit. He then came up with a diagram (sorry for still more ugly notation) k_{v,w} / \ / \ |_ _| V_w W_v That is, vertices of the diagram consist of U(W) copies of V, U(V) copies of W, and U(V)xU(W) copies of k (U is the forgetful functor to sets). And the maps... well, you guess. The reason this is relevant is that in the Barr's monoidal category, the product of (S->U(A)) and (T->U(B)) is (SxT->U(C)) where C is the colimit, in the category of algebras, of F(1)_{s,t} / \ / \ |_ _| A_t B_s It does not look so ugly after all, does it? :), Mamuka