From: "Prof. Peter Johnstone" <P.T.Johnstone@dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
To: CATEGORIES LIST <categories@mta.ca>,
Subject: Re: Generalization of Browder's F.P. Theorem?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:00:44 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030116224847.23945C-100000@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E26BBF3.2D413C6A@cs.bham.ac.uk>
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Steven J Vickers wrote:
>
> I'm intrigued by Peter McBurney's question [below]. It looks rather like a
> question of the constructive content of Brouwer's fixed point theorem.
>
> Suppose S is (homeomorphic to) an n-cell. Then in the internal logic of the
> topos of sheaves over [0,1], f is just a continuous endomap of S. If
> Brouwer's theorem were constructively true then f would have a fixpoint,
> and that would come out as a continuous section of the projection [0,1]xS
> -> [0,1]. More precisely, it would be a map g: [0,1] -> S such that f(x,
> g(x)) = g(x) for all x. If this existed then the set A = {(x, g(x))| x in
> [0,1]} would be as required.
>
> However, the proof of Brouwer that I've seen is not constructive - it goes
> by contradiction. So maybe the requirements on A are a way of getting
> constructive content in Brouwer's result.
>
> What is known constructively about Brouwer's fixed point theorem?
>
> Steve Vickers.
>
Similar thoughts had occurred to me. Brouwer's theorem is clearly
not constructive, since it doesn't hold (even locally) continuously in
parameters (consider a path in the space of endomaps of [0,1]
passing through the identity, where the fixed point `flips' from
one end of the interval to the other as it does so). However, Browder's
result would seem to suggest that the `locale of fixed points of f'
(that is, the equalizer of f and the identity in the category of
locales) might be consistent (that is, `inhabited') in general,
even though it may not have any points. It's certainly conceivable
that that might be true constructively, though I can't see how to
prove it -- but it isn't the full content of Browder's theorem.
Peter Johnstone
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-16 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-15 14:00 Peter McBurney
2003-01-16 14:04 ` Steven J Vickers
2003-01-16 23:00 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone [this message]
2003-01-16 23:05 ` Michael Barr
2003-01-21 18:11 ` Andrej Bauer
2003-01-22 10:13 ` Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals Martin Escardo
2003-01-22 23:33 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-23 19:56 ` Category Theory in Biology Peter McBurney
2003-01-24 8:51 ` Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals Martin Escardo
2003-01-25 2:21 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-25 16:24 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-27 3:57 ` Alex Simpson
2003-01-23 6:29 ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-04 0:47 ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-05 16:06 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-23 9:50 ` Mamuka Jibladze
2003-01-24 1:34 ` Ross Street
2003-01-24 16:56 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-24 19:48 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-17 16:19 Generalization of Browder's F.P. Theorem? Carl Futia
2003-01-18 12:39 ` S Vickers
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