From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/557 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: categories Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Injectives and choice Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:41:42 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241017035 26261 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 14:57:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:57:15 +0000 (UTC) To: categories Original-X-From: cat-dist Mon Dec 8 15:41:54 1997 Original-Received: (from cat-dist@localhost) by mailserv.mta.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20619; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:41:42 -0400 (AST) Original-Lines: 20 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:557 Archived-At: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:11:00 -0500 (EST) From: Colin McLarty Grothendieck's proof that every AB5 category has enough injectives uses the axiom of choice (actually Zorn's lemma--which John Bell points out to me is significantly weaker than choice in toposes). And the proof in Johnstone's TOPOS THEORY that the category of Abelian groups over any Grothendieck topos has enough injectives uses Barr's theorem: Every Grothendieck topos is covered by one that satisfies the axiom of choice. This theorem itself assumes the axiom of choice in the base topos (i.e. the one over which the others are Grothendeick). Are there any good results showing how necessary the axiom of choice, or Zorn's lemma, is to these results?