* git.zx2c4.com down ? @ 2013-01-15 14:21 stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 15:36 ` Jason 2013-01-15 23:55 ` normalperson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw) Subject says it. Is there any mirror ? (There should be at least one, IMHO. Github? Bitbucket ?) Stefan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- python -c "print '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 14:21 git.zx2c4.com down ? stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 15:36 ` Jason 2013-01-15 15:40 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 23:55 ` normalperson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jason @ 2013-01-15 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Should be up right now. I've had so much traffic this last week it's been a bit spotty. My hosting provider just switched up my situation so it should be a bit more responsive now. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 15:36 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 15:40 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 15:48 ` mailings 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Seems to be OK again. Any thoughts about the 'mirror situation' ? Stefan On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason at zx2c4.com> wrote: > Should be up right now. > > I've had so much traffic this last week it's been a bit spotty. My hosting > provider just switched up my situation so it should be a bit more responsive > now. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- python -c "print '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 15:40 ` stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 15:48 ` mailings 2013-01-15 15:57 ` Jason 2013-01-15 15:58 ` Jason 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: mailings @ 2013-01-15 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw) how about hosting the repo on github? On 15/01/13 16:40, Stefan Naewe wrote: > Seems to be OK again. > > Any thoughts about the 'mirror situation' ? > > Stefan > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason at zx2c4.com> wrote: >> Should be up right now. >> >> I've had so much traffic this last week it's been a bit spotty. My hosting >> provider just switched up my situation so it should be a bit more responsive >> now. > > > -- Ferry Huberts ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 15:48 ` mailings @ 2013-01-15 15:57 ` Jason 2013-01-15 16:02 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 15:58 ` Jason 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jason @ 2013-01-15 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Ferry Huberts <mailings at hupie.com> wrote: > how about hosting the repo on github? > > > On 15/01/13 16:40, Stefan Naewe wrote: > >> Seems to be OK again. >> >> Any thoughts about the 'mirror situation' ? >> >> Everything on git.zx2c4.com is mirrored to the zx2c4 account on github at all times. But github should by no means become a primary place for the repo. I don't take pull requests. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 15:57 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 16:02 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 16:15 ` Jason 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason at zx2c4.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Ferry Huberts <mailings at hupie.com> wrote: >> >> how about hosting the repo on github? >> >> >>> Any thoughts about the 'mirror situation' ? >>> > > Everything on git.zx2c4.com is mirrored to the zx2c4 account on github at > all times. OK. Good to know. > But github should by no means become a primary place for the repo. I don't > take pull requests. Why not ? Stefan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- python -c "print '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 16:02 ` stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 16:15 ` Jason 2013-01-15 19:15 ` stefan.naewe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jason @ 2013-01-15 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com>wrote: > > > But github should by no means become a primary place for the repo. I > don't > > take pull requests. > > Why not ? Because that is not the purpose of cgit. I will not argue this; it is not up for debate. Please don't bother replying to this email. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 16:15 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 19:15 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 20:14 ` jamie.couture 2013-01-15 20:22 ` 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason at zx2c4.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> > But github should by no means become a primary place for the repo. I >> > don't take pull requests. >> >> Why not ? > > > Because that is not the purpose of cgit. What is not the purpose of cgit ? Being maintained by pull requests from github ? I really don't understand what you are talking about here. > I will not argue this; it is not up for debate. Please don't bother replying > to this email. Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't sound too friendly ? Im a little bit puzzled about Jason's reaction. Stefan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- python -c "print '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 19:15 ` stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 20:14 ` jamie.couture 2013-01-15 20:22 ` 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: jamie.couture @ 2013-01-15 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason at zx2c4.com> > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> > But github should by no means become a primary place for the repo. I > >> > don't take pull requests. > >> > >> Why not ? > > > > > > Because that is not the purpose of cgit. > > What is not the purpose of cgit ? > Being maintained by pull requests from github ? > I really don't understand what you are talking about here. > > > I will not argue this; it is not up for debate. Please don't bother > replying > > to this email. > > Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't sound too friendly ? > > Im a little bit puzzled about Jason's reaction. > > Not really. cgit is maintained by a patch-based workflow. I don't blame him for choosing to keep this workflow. I would prefer to submit patches, and discuss them on the mailing list. > Stefan > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > python -c "print > '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" > > _______________________________________________ > cgit mailing list > cgit at hjemli.net > http://hjemli.net/mailman/listinfo/cgit > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 19:15 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 20:14 ` jamie.couture @ 2013-01-15 20:22 ` 2013-01-15 20:35 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 21:26 ` mailings 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: @ 2013-01-15 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> wrote: [...] > What is not the purpose of cgit ? > Being maintained by pull requests from github ? > I really don't understand what you are talking about here. It wouldn't make sense to use github as a web-interface for the cgit project because the sole purpose of cgit is already to provide a web interface for git repositories. So if you host everything at github, there's no reason for cgit to exist anymore. > Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't sound too friendly ? > > Im a little bit puzzled about Jason's reaction. Yes, you are the only one. This whole github-is-the-best hipster attitude is getting on my nerves. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 20:22 ` @ 2013-01-15 20:35 ` stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 21:03 ` Jason 2013-01-15 21:26 ` mailings 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM, D?en <yvldwt at gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> wrote: > [...] >> What is not the purpose of cgit ? >> Being maintained by pull requests from github ? >> I really don't understand what you are talking about here. > > It wouldn't make sense to use github as a web-interface for the cgit > project because the sole purpose of cgit is already to provide a web > interface for git repositories. So if you host everything at github, > there's no reason for cgit to exist anymore. Yeah, right. Because I can easily install 'github' on the server at $WORK for our internal projects.... >> Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't sound too friendly ? >> >> Im a little bit puzzled about Jason's reaction. > > Yes, you are the only one. This whole github-is-the-best hipster > attitude is getting on my nerves. Did I say: This project needs to be switched over to github because github is so cool these days ? I think not. I just wanted to know why Jason doesn't want to take pull requests from github and what he means by "...not the purpose of cgit". I still find his reaction a little bit harsh (if that's the right word). Stefan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- python -c "print '73746566616e2e6e6165776540676d61696c2e636f6d'.decode('hex')" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 20:35 ` stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 21:03 ` Jason 2013-01-15 21:19 ` webmaster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jason @ 2013-01-15 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi all, Let's end this discussion before it turns into cgit mailinglist's first ever flamewar. That would be a good thing to do. Stefan, thanks for your input. Jamie and Dzen, thanks too for yours -- I think you guys are right. The mailing list patch model of cgit works well, most of us all seem to like it, and I have no intentions on changing how we operate. Further, dog-fooding is a good thing: if there's a shortcoming in cgit that makes it inadequate for development of cgit, well, then we've got our work cut out for us. But things have been working very well (I think), and I like the community and processes Lars began. I do not plan to change these in the immediate future. Finally, thanks for the email about the downtime. There were indeed a few moments of downtime as hosting records were updated to juice up my server, and I don't anticipate there'll be significant downtime in the future. Ending this discussion before the flames begin would be a Good Thing To Do (tm). I sincerely hope this message is the last of the thread, and I'd encourage others not to really entertain it any further. Jason ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 21:03 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 21:19 ` webmaster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: webmaster @ 2013-01-15 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) Jason, Many thanks for assuming leadership of the project. cGit is great and it's the Git front-end of choice here at Eclipse. Healthy discussion is a sign of a healthy community. Folks asked questions and they were shot down really quick. Had the email below been presented several hours earlier, there would have been no need for follow-up questions since your position is quite clear. Again, many thanks to you personally for your hard work on cGit, and to everyone who contributes. I hope the project continues to prosper as an active community of involved users and developers who are all open to discussion and to new ideas. Denis On 01/15/2013 04:03 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hi all, > > Let's end this discussion before it turns into cgit mailinglist's > first ever flamewar. That would be a good thing to do. > > Stefan, thanks for your input. Jamie and Dzen, thanks too for yours -- > I think you guys are right. The mailing list patch model of cgit works > well, most of us all seem to like it, and I have no intentions on > changing how we operate. > > Further, dog-fooding is a good thing: if there's a shortcoming in cgit > that makes it inadequate for development of cgit, well, then we've got > our work cut out for us. But things have been working very well (I > think), and I like the community and processes Lars began. I do not > plan to change these in the immediate future. > > Finally, thanks for the email about the downtime. There were indeed a > few moments of downtime as hosting records were updated to juice up my > server, and I don't anticipate there'll be significant downtime in the > future. > > Ending this discussion before the flames begin would be a Good Thing > To Do (tm). I sincerely hope this message is the last of the thread, > and I'd encourage others not to really entertain it any further. > > Jason > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 20:22 ` 2013-01-15 20:35 ` stefan.naewe @ 2013-01-15 21:26 ` mailings 2013-01-15 21:55 ` 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: mailings @ 2013-01-15 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/01/13 21:22, D?en wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> wrote: > [...] >> What is not the purpose of cgit ? >> Being maintained by pull requests from github ? >> I really don't understand what you are talking about here. > > It wouldn't make sense to use github as a web-interface for the cgit > project because the sole purpose of cgit is already to provide a web > interface for git repositories. So if you host everything at github, > there's no reason for cgit to exist anymore. > >> Am I the only one who thinks that this doesn't sound too friendly ? >> >> Im a little bit puzzled about Jason's reaction. > > Yes, you are the only one. This whole github-is-the-best hipster > attitude is getting on my nerves. Who said anything about that? Me, I didn't even imply it. I implied that it has better uptime and less bandwidth limits. That's all -- Ferry Huberts ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 21:26 ` mailings @ 2013-01-15 21:55 ` 2013-01-15 22:02 ` mailings 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: @ 2013-01-15 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ferry Huberts <mailings at hupie.com> wrote: [...] > Who said anything about that? > > Me, I didn't even imply it. > I implied that it has better uptime and less bandwidth limits. > That's all I guess I wasn't specific enough, sorry for that. I don't mind creating a mirror of cgit on github as a backup, if people *really* consider it necessary. However, I disagree with only using github for everything (code hosting, discussions etc.). In my point of view there's nothing wrong with the mailing list and how things have been until now. It's just that to me it seems that a lot of people (in other mailing lists) get overexcited regarding github, everybody wants to move over there. I guess I just misinterpreted your and Stefan's message. Thank you Jason for sharing your opinion on the whole thing. I think in the end we can all agree with each other. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 21:55 ` @ 2013-01-15 22:02 ` mailings 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: mailings @ 2013-01-15 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/01/13 22:55, D?en wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ferry Huberts <mailings at hupie.com> wrote: > [...] >> Who said anything about that? >> >> Me, I didn't even imply it. >> I implied that it has better uptime and less bandwidth limits. >> That's all > > I guess I wasn't specific enough, sorry for that. I don't mind > creating a mirror of cgit on github as a backup, if people *really* > consider it necessary. However, I disagree with only using github for > everything (code hosting, discussions etc.). In my point of view > there's nothing wrong with the mailing list and how things have been > until now. It's just that to me it seems that a lot of people (in > other mailing lists) get overexcited regarding github, everybody wants > to move over there. I guess I just misinterpreted your and Stefan's > message. You talk like you've been contributing to cgit on a regular basis, but somehow I am unable to find your email address in any of the commits... > > Thank you Jason for sharing your opinion on the whole thing. I think > in the end we can all agree with each other. > -- Ferry Huberts ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 15:48 ` mailings 2013-01-15 15:57 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 15:58 ` Jason 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jason @ 2013-01-15 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Ferry Huberts <mailings at hupie.com> wrote: > how about hosting the repo on github? > Also, this is for the cgit project... ... Things are staying on git.zx2c4.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* git.zx2c4.com down ? 2013-01-15 14:21 git.zx2c4.com down ? stefan.naewe 2013-01-15 15:36 ` Jason @ 2013-01-15 23:55 ` normalperson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: normalperson @ 2013-01-15 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Stefan Naewe <stefan.naewe at gmail.com> wrote: > Subject says it. > > Is there any mirror ? Btw, I've updated my mirror to point to Jason's archive, now: git://bogomips.org/mirrors/cgit.git http://bogomips.org/mirrors/cgit.git (cgit :) > (There should be at least one, IMHO. Github? Bitbucket ?) I completely agree with Jason on this matter (except I wouldn't even maintain mirrors on those services, I use repo.or.cz for that). Fwiw, I believe anybody capable of hosting a mirror themselves _should_ host one. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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