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Donenfeld" To: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com, cgit@lists.zx2c4.com, password-store@lists.zx2c4.com Subject: IRC channels #wireguard, #cgit, and #pass open on Libera.Chat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: cgit@lists.zx2c4.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: List for cgit developers and users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: cgit-bounces@lists.zx2c4.com Sender: "CGit" Hi, The IRC channels #wireguard, #cgit, and #pass will now be on Libera.Chat in official capacity. This means that you can now connect with other users and developers of these projects by pointing your IRC client at: Server: irc.libera.chat Port: 6697 with TLS (aka "ssl" or "secure port") Channel: #wireguard, #cgit, and #pass On Weechat: /server add libera irc.libera.chat/6697 -ssl -autoconnect -autojoin=#wireguard,#cgit,#pass /save /connect libera On irssi: /network add libera /channel add -auto #wireguard libera /channel add -auto #cgit libera /channel add -auto #pass libera /server add -network libera -auto -tls irc.libera.chat 6697 /save /connect libera Users who want to simply pop online ephemerally to ask a quick question can also use the web interface: . Though do note that the community generally appreciates it when people maintain a more continuous presence logged in ("idling"). For folks who want to connect to IRC longer term, but don't want to futz around with overly technical things, services like IRCCloud.com (paid) and Matrix.org (free) offer a way of staying connected to IRC networks from your web browser and mobile phone. With large swaths of the free software community recently departing our old home of freenode, the choice was between the new Libera.Chat IRC network, the venerable OFTC IRC network, and something newfangled like Slack, Discord, Mattermost, Rocket.Chat, Zulip, or `ncat -l -k --chat`. This choice was not easy. The primary advantage of the newer platforms is their broader accessibility to less technical users and expanded feature sets. Their disadvantage is that they are standalone/siloed tools, which don't promote cross-pollination between our community and other communities. In contrast, the primary advantage of IRC in general over the more recent communication tools is the community around IRC. Somebody hanging out over in #archlinux asking a question about WireGuard is easily referred to #wireguard for additional troubleshooting, and vice versa. And different types of users and developers frequently meet and share ideas. It is a commons of sorts. There are additional differences between the platforms (with keywords like "javascript" or "licensing" or "curmudgeonly"), but this distinction between being part of the larger community and free software ecosystem, and not, strikes me as a critical basis of decision. In deciding between Libera.Chat and OFTC, the decision was a bit harder, but ultimately was made with the same principle in mind. OFTC is old and stable, having apparently few governance issues over a long history. In contrast, Libera.Chat is brand new and was created by a group of volunteers that, while having an impressive history of running freenode successfully for many years, have just emerged from a highly publicized conflict. However, Libera.Chat hosts a significantly larger portion of the free software community than OFTC. Seeing that our motivation for remaining on IRC in the first place is community, going with the larger network makes most sense, even if it does not yet have a proven track record of stability. I hope that rationale makes sense. See you all in the new channels. Thanks, Jason PS: WireGuard community members, enthusiasts, contributors, and developers can now request a "wireguard/tunneler/{nick}" cloak from Mira (mira), Aaron (amdj), or me (zx2c4). Shoot one of us a message on IRC and we'll set it up.