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H:exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local; PTR:joe28.superglobalmegacorp.com; CAT:NONE; SFS:(39830400003)(396003)(346002)(376002)(136003)(36840700001)(46966006)(356005)(36906005)(110136005)(2906002)(70206006)(316002)(86362001)(31696002)(9686003)(36860700001)(70586007)(66574015)(53546011)(33964004)(6666004)(8936002)(47076005)(8676002)(82310400003)(31686004)(26005)(5660300002)(478600001)(966005)(186003)(336012)(99724002)(19400905002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; X-OriginatorOrg: superglobalmegacorp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2021 01:33:36.6310 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 2c017dc9-2938-43c0-d351-08d9199cf573 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 870ed452-0577-4b7b-90ed-9cac080031b9 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=870ed452-0577-4b7b-90ed-9cac080031b9; Ip=[172.86.181.34]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: PU1APC01FT016.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: KU1PR02MB2568 Subject: [COFF] On the rise and fall of Gopher X-BeenThere: coff@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0092598155502864231==" Errors-To: coff-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "COFF" --===============0092598155502864231== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_DC55D388-DA08-4CE8-918A-670C8B29B2BF_" --_DC55D388-DA08-4CE8-918A-670C8B29B2BF_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Back when the =E2=80=98answer=E2=80=99 was being handed to us via NeXTSTEP.= Full text indexing of all the resources! Kind of funny how Digital and NeXT among others missed that boat. I=E2=80=99ve hacked Altavista desktop search to be publicially available, b= ut I=E2=80=99ve never managed to build a NeXT public search tool thing via = gopher. Speaking of, I do host a gopher site, and I do get a fair bit of t= raffic, although I think it=E2=80=99s mostly crawlers, and people looking f= or exploits/warez =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99d imagine people running public FTP s= ervers see the same kind of nonsense. gopher2_3.1 builds somewhat easily on 64bit Linux, and even works! =E2=80= =A6 Although I=E2=80=99m not sure that anyone else needs to or really wants= to join the gopherspace. From: Michael Kj=C3=B6rling Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 5:33 PM To: coff@minnie.tuhs.org Subject: [COFF] On the rise and fall of Gopher The EFF just published an article on the rise and fall of Gopher on their Deeplinks blog. "Gopher: When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the Gatekeepers' Fortresses" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperabil= ity-burrowed-under-gatekeepers-fortresses I thought it might be of interest to people here. --=20 Michael Kj=C3=B6rling =E2=80=A2 https://michael.kjorling.se =E2=80=A2 micha= el@kjorling.se =E2=80=9CRemember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?= =E2=80=9D _______________________________________________ COFF mailing list COFF@minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff --_DC55D388-DA08-4CE8-918A-670C8B29B2BF_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Back when the =E2=80=98answer=E2=80= =99 was being handed to us via NeXTSTEP.=C2=A0 Full text indexing of all th= e resources!

 

Kind of funny how Digital and NeXT among others missed that boat.

 

I=E2=80=99ve h= acked Altavista desktop search to be publicially available, but I=E2=80=99v= e never managed to build a NeXT public search tool thing via gopher.=C2=A0 = Speaking of, I do host a gopher site, and I do get a fair bit of traffic, a= lthough I think it=E2=80=99s mostly crawlers, and people looking for exploi= ts/warez =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99d imagine people running public FTP servers se= e the same kind of nonsense.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>gopher2_3.1 builds somewhat easily on 64bit Linux, and = even works! =E2=80=A6 Although I=E2=80=99m not sure that anyone else needs = to or really wants to join the gopherspace.

&n= bsp;

 

 

From: Michael Kj=C3= =B6rling
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 5:33 PM
To: = coff@minnie.tuhs.org
= Subject: [COFF] On the rise and fall of Gopher

 

The EFF just published an a= rticle on the rise and fall of Gopher on

their Deep= links blog.

 

"Gopher: When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the

Gatekeepers' Fortresses"

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/= 02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperability-burrowed-under-gatekeepers-fort= resses

 

I = thought it might be of interest to people here.

 

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=E2=80=9CRemember when, on the Internet, nob= ody cared that you were a dog?=E2=80=9D

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