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From: lm at mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: [COFF] Why did Motorola fail?
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:45:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180810154509.GA21082@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2NtaRuBbZOJgAdC3VT4VDhaCa-xNrES6Pu4GWGj0uP38Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:13:48AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> > My guess is cheaper as well.
> 
> Maybe -- TI was the fab right?   Moto's fabs were pretty good, not as good
> at Intel in those days.

I'm not sure who did the first SPARC, I'd guess TI, they did most of
the follow on designs.  I know Fujitsu did some SPARC chips but I'm not
sure if that was solely for their own use or if Sun used those.  But I
remember a lot of TI chips and TI was not speedy turning those around,
the hardware guys were under a lot of pressure to get it right the first
time (and I think that was rare).

> I never really thought much of the RISC chips, accept maybe the by the time
> of the MIPS 4400 series; but then again they were were designed for
> compiler writers.
> 
> And the whole RISC thing was a bit of marketing.   

Yeah, I tend to agree.  But there was some wisdom in less is more, it was
easier to make the clocks go faster when the instructions are simple.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-10 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-10  2:23 grog
2018-08-10  2:55 ` stewart
2018-08-10  6:00 ` arno.griffioen
2018-08-10  7:24 ` dave
2018-08-10  7:44 ` bakul
2018-08-10 13:40   ` clemc
2018-08-10 14:43 ` lm
2018-08-10 15:13   ` clemc
2018-08-10 15:45     ` lm [this message]
2018-08-10 15:53       ` [COFF] Why did Motorola fail? (Cost and performance) david

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