* [COFF] The Z3
@ 2021-05-11 21:00 Dave Horsfall
2021-05-11 22:06 ` Tomasz Rola
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From: Dave Horsfall @ 2021-05-11 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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A bit of history: on this day in 1941, Konrad Zuse presented the Z3, the
world's first working programmable, fully automatic computer, in Berlin.
Pity it got destroyed when the joint was bombed...
-- Dave
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* Re: [COFF] The Z3
2021-05-11 21:00 [COFF] The Z3 Dave Horsfall
@ 2021-05-11 22:06 ` Tomasz Rola
2021-05-11 23:56 ` Dave Horsfall
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From: Tomasz Rola @ 2021-05-11 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 07:00:32AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> A bit of history: on this day in 1941, Konrad Zuse presented the Z3,
> the world's first working programmable, fully automatic computer, in
> Berlin.
>
> Pity it got destroyed when the joint was bombed...
A pity or not a pity at all... It was a remarkable achievement of
engineering but I am happy it did not get appreciation in the eyes of
contemporary German authorities. In such case it would inevitably be
used to prolong WW2 to detriment of everybody involved.
Technology is deeply involved in life and its contorted ways.
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Regards,
Tomasz Rola
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** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
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* Re: [COFF] The Z3
2021-05-11 22:06 ` Tomasz Rola
@ 2021-05-11 23:56 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-05-12 16:55 ` Tomasz Rola
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From: Dave Horsfall @ 2021-05-11 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, 12 May 2021, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>> Pity it got destroyed when the joint was bombed...
>
> A pity or not a pity at all... It was a remarkable achievement of
> engineering but I am happy it did not get appreciation in the eyes of
> contemporary German authorities. In such case it would inevitably be
> used to prolong WW2 to detriment of everybody involved.
Well, any technology can be used for malicious purposes; look at how the
N*zis employed IBM tabulators with Watson's full knowledge (they went via
a Swiss intermediary -- look up "Dehomag" to find the book).
> Technology is deeply involved in life and its contorted ways.
Indeed...
-- Dave
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* Re: [COFF] The Z3
2021-05-11 23:56 ` Dave Horsfall
@ 2021-05-12 16:55 ` Tomasz Rola
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From: Tomasz Rola @ 2021-05-12 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 09:56:24AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2021, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
> >>Pity it got destroyed when the joint was bombed...
> >
> >A pity or not a pity at all... It was a remarkable achievement of
> >engineering but I am happy it did not get appreciation in the eyes
> >of contemporary German authorities. In such case it would
> >inevitably be used to prolong WW2 to detriment of everybody
> >involved.
>
> Well, any technology can be used for malicious purposes; look at how
> the N*zis employed IBM tabulators with Watson's full knowledge (they
> went via a Swiss intermediary -- look up "Dehomag" to find the
> book).
Ahem. As a matter of fact, I have once spent a few afternoons reading
about exactly this... Actually, I am trying (low priority, leisure
activity) to grok punched cards technology (i.e., before arrival of
Turing-complete devices). The subject is quite fascinating because so
alien (forget about your favorite editors and compilers).
It is also interesting to note how modern ways (including warfare and
social media) have been rooted in logistics and accounting, all going
back to electromechanical tech supporting works being done by big
business and administration more than hundred years ago...
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
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** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
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