From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2704 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2022 03:59:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Jun 2022 03:59:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770D540D36; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:59:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl (mailout2.ceti.pl [62.121.128.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B3A040784 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:59:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D9F2411D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 05:59:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.ceti.pl Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.42]) by localhost (mailout.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id og1vj7rfiHm3 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 05:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F35240CF for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 05:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id 2F823960B14; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 05:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 05:59:39 +0200 From: Tomasz Rola To: Grant Taylor via COFF Message-ID: <20220621035938.GA23036@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <20220615051421.GA8328@tau1.ceti.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Message-ID-Hash: IXNMDSP2HDSY6HLJ6DPAAQBTJEPV6H3N X-Message-ID-Hash: IXNMDSP2HDSY6HLJ6DPAAQBTJEPV6H3N X-MailFrom: rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Status of classiccmp.org? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 09:37:46AM -0600, Grant Taylor via COFF wrote: > On 6/14/22 11:14 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote: > >Ah. I too am missing a "noise" coming from that direction. A > >noise, well, a buzz, of bees always repairing their hardware, > >nothing negative. > > I think that it will be interesting to see how much email makes it > through once services are brought back on line. > > I've always retained mail for two weeks before giving up. Not as > may people do so for as long any more. As you might know, when the target does not receive email, sender will try to send it to backup receiver(s), here: $ dig classiccmp.org MX ; <<>> DiG 9.16.27-Debian <<>> classiccmp.org MX ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27228 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;classiccmp.org. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: classiccmp.org. 1799 IN MX 10 mx2.ezwind.net. classiccmp.org. 1799 IN MX 10 mx1.ezwind.net. [...] and from this: [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record ] I infer that the actual date when email will get dumped to /dev/null depends on settings of relevant mail servers (MTAs) - either sending one or backup receiver. If there is a way to get those value remotely by talking to the server, I have not yet dug it up, nor looked. I assume it might be about two weeks in case of classiccmp and each email author should be notified when his email fails to reach a recipient. So, we will see (experiment by doing nothing...), -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **