From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10019 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2022 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2022 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAEF4097F; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp03.aussiebb.com.au (smtp03.aussiebb.com.au [121.200.0.94]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC5B40979 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.aussiebb.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233C81A0078 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:09 +1000 (AEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp03.aussiebb.com.au Received: from smtp03.aussiebb.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp03.aussiebb.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x_QdOLF1W0UE for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by smtp03.aussiebb.com.au (Postfix, from userid 119) id 1AE491A0181; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (121-200-11-253.79c80b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [121.200.11.253]) by smtp03.aussiebb.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1A41A0078 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9E9F2635BE; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:07 +1000 (AEST) Resent-From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:24:07 +1000 Resent-Message-ID: <20220702002407.GC93587@eureka.lemis.com> Resent-To: COFF Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:08:28 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Harald Arnesen Message-ID: <20220702000828.GB32390@eureka.lemis.com> References: <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au> <20220701004118.GA22338@tau1.ceti.pl> <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com> Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Message-ID-Hash: ZX7ZWAJXPDPYBVK72IH4O57PQ254LEFT X-Message-ID-Hash: ZX7ZWAJXPDPYBVK72IH4O57PQ254LEFT X-MailFrom: grog@lemis.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: "9 skills our grandkids won't have" - Is this a TUHS topic? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Redirected to COFF] On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 20:12:44 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote: > Tomasz Rola [01/07/2022 02.41]: > > I recall reading about some movie, whose fans >> were unable to understand why a protagonist took film (celuloid) to >> some "red room". They suggested it was for making photos sharper. > > Except that we didn't use red light in our darkrooms at all, at least > not from the 1970s and on. ... Correct. I started darkroom work in 1964, and from the beginning we used amber safelights. I don't think red safelights have been used since long before that. Another thing that the film industry continually gets wrong. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAmK/jHwACgkQIubykFB6QiNsdgCfZy0NBLPGWlQTIKW+QEoJvCVD ixEAoInJWxF8IxYRwDFw5gq8NvaHbqxP =Nx55 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt--