From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25860 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2022 02:35:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2022 02:35:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499E140C28; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:35:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799C14013C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:35:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 1C44F35E922; Fri, 1 Jul 2022 19:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 19:35:02 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: "Charles H. Sauer" Message-ID: <20220702023502.GE11191@mcvoy.com> References: <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au> <20220701004118.GA22338@tau1.ceti.pl> <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com> <20220702000828.GB32390@eureka.lemis.com> <20220702012641.GA84351@eureka.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: DEGAV74P6N2LEM2FOQ657QLRHMXJVL5G X-Message-ID-Hash: DEGAV74P6N2LEM2FOQ657QLRHMXJVL5G X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I was a photography nerd in the 1980's and we used red lights. As nerdy as I was, I remember those times with fond memories. Something special about putting the paper in the mix and seeing the picture come out of nowhere. And the power you had with dodging to bring what you wanted into focus. On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 09:24:28PM -0500, Charles H. Sauer wrote: > I recall three darkrooms that I used, in 1960 a makeshift one in bathroom in my home, > a regular one in an armory in Greenbelt MD about the same time, and one in the student union at UT Austin about 1970. All three used red lights IIRC. > > > On Jul 1, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 17:57:35 -0700, Adam Thornton wrote: > >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>> On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 20:12:44 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote: > >>>> Except that we didn't use red light in our darkrooms at all, at least > >>>> not from the 1970s and on. ... > >>> > >>> Correct. I started darkroom work in 1964, and from the beginning we > >>> used amber safelights. I don't think red safelights have been used > >>> since long before that. > >> > >> When I learned film photography in the mid 1980s the darkroom had > >> red lights. Of course it was a very old darkroom in a middle school, > >> so I'm sure that _adequate_ darkrooms had better equipment. > > > > Hmm. Any idea how old the equipment is? I suppose you wouldn't > > expect people to replace existing, functional equipment without good > > reason. > > > > Greg > > -- > > Sent from my desktop computer. > > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php > > -- > voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com > fax: +1.512.346.5240 web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ > Facebook/Google/Skype/Twitter: CharlesHSauer > -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat