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From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To: Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com>
Cc: COFF <coff@tuhs.org>
Subject: [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have")
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 15:35:28 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220702053528.GF84351@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D964A8F2-ED32-44B7-97C2-FAE3C737B885@gmail.com>

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On Friday,  1 July 2022 at 22:21:49 -0700, Adam Thornton wrote:
>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Friday,  1 July 2022 at 17:57:35 -0700, Adam Thornton wrote:
>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday,  1 July 2022 at 20:12:44 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote:
>>>>> Except that we didn't use red light in our darkrooms at all, at least
>>>>> not from the 1970s and on. ...
>>>>
>>>> Correct.  I started darkroom work in 1964, and from the beginning we
>>>> used amber safelights.  I don't think red safelights have been used
>>>> since long before that.
>>>
>>> When I learned film photography in the mid 1980s the darkroom had
>>> red lights.  Of course it was a very old darkroom in a middle school,
>>> so I'm sure that _adequate_ darkrooms had better equipment.
>>
>> Hmm.  Any idea how old the equipment is?  I suppose you wouldn't
>> expect people to replace existing, functional equipment without good
>> reason.
>
> No idea at all how old it was.  I mean, a) I was a kid, and b) it
> was the first darkroom I'd ever seen so I had no basis of comparison.
> I'm sure it was at least one and maybe more generations of
> hand-me-down by the time I got to use it.  But, I mean, "good enough
> for middle school kids, and we got it for free" was probably good
> enough, right?

Yes, of course.  I was just curious.  But in the meantime many have
reported using red safelights, so the answer's not that relevant.

I dug back into my records, and found that I bought an OB (amber) and
3 (dark green, for panchro) safelight filter for the school darkroom
on 19 May 1965.  No mention of a red filter yet.  And
https://www.kodak.com/content/products-brochures/Film/Safelight-Recommendations.pdf
agrees with me that amber is the most appropriate colour for black and
white print paper.  I wonder why red safelights were so prevalent.

Greg
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-02  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au>
2022-06-30 14:23 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] "9 skills our grandkids won't have" - Is this a TUHS topic? Michael Kjörling
2022-06-30 22:02   ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
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     [not found]   ` <ef9644e7-0d91-76a9-491e-f8a33c8d0644@stanford.com.au>
     [not found]     ` <DCA1EA08-3901-4D14-9563-46B6BDEAE93A@mac.com>
     [not found]       ` <20220630212153.GD11191@mcvoy.com>
     [not found]         ` <CALQ0xCA4fH6Jp9N+_fg4h3wuxqNmGuSynnVFsSbXtAyZKS-ueQ@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]             ` <20220630215445.GF11191@mcvoy.com>
     [not found]               ` <171E1A5A-268F-44EE-967E-5EF49004F824@csp-partnership.co.uk>
     [not found]                 ` <CAKr56SwaAO3cXMp6hpfapCghdRR2q942nk90BtnWjpYNt2w=DQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-07-02  0:04                   ` [COFF] " Greg 'groggy' Lehey
     [not found] ` <20220701004118.GA22338@tau1.ceti.pl>
     [not found]   ` <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com>
2022-07-02  0:08     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
     [not found]       ` <C8A3B9E1-1A2B-4882-B2C6-A7E0C9E55500@gmail.com>
2022-07-02  1:26         ` [COFF] Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-07-02  2:24           ` [COFF] " Charles H. Sauer
2022-07-02  2:35             ` Larry McVoy
2022-07-02  2:43               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-07-02  2:49               ` Dave Horsfall
2022-07-06  9:00                 ` Peter Jeremy via COFF
2022-07-06 14:06                   ` [COFF] Re: Kodachrome [was Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have")] Dan Halbert
2022-07-02  5:21           ` [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") Adam Thornton
2022-07-02  5:35             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
     [not found] ` <CABH=_VTyWKc9N1ARR6du3XLWkoNUzHB=8VDkxic2jUG6ofxs8A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CACyhTRHyUJ8aBLyzQCm5iBANs_b1F8xfr1y-0drSVsCKZ+MToQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-07-02  0:12     ` [COFF] Re: "9 skills our grandkids won't have" - Is this a TUHS topic? Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-07-02  3:39 [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") Dennis Boone
2022-07-03  1:09 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-07-03  9:49   ` Harald Arnesen

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