From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10666 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2023 23:17:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Feb 2023 23:17:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96264411E2; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 09:17:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F5EE411D4 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 09:17:36 +1000 (AEST) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 20:29:38 +0100 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Will Senn Message-ID: <20230201192938.ozV2d%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <3808a35c-2ee0-2081-4128-c8196b4732c0@gmail.com> References: <20230201004023.rHE9j%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <3808a35c-2ee0-2081-4128-c8196b4732c0@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Will Senn , coff@tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-403-gdc9ff6b368 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Message-ID-Hash: BD5XATJNEKNVRFUTONU5NAFURPII4WGY X-Message-ID-Hash: BD5XATJNEKNVRFUTONU5NAFURPII4WGY X-MailFrom: steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: coff@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Algol rules: was something about Rust is not C++ List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Will Senn wrote in <3808a35c-2ee0-2081-4128-c8196b4732c0@gmail.com>: |Well, I just read this as Rust is dead... here's hoping, but seriously, |if we're gonna go off and have a language vs language discussion, I |personally don't think we've had any real language innovation since |Algol 60, well maybe lisp... sheesh, surely we're in COFF territory. It has evangelists on all fronts. ..Yes it was only that while i was writing the message i reread about Vala of the GNOME project, which seems to be a modern language with many beneficial properties still, growing out of a Swiss University (is that a bad sign to come from Switzerland and more out of research), and it had support of Ubuntu and many other parts of the GNOME project. Still it is said to be dead. I scrubbed that part of my message. But maybe thus a "dead" relation in between the lines remained. Smalltalk is also such a thing, though not from Switzerland. An Ach! on the mystery of human behaviour. Or, like the wonderful Marcel Reich-Ranicki said, "Wir sehen es betroffen, den Vorhang zu, und alle Fragen offen" ("Concerned we see, the curtain closed, and all the Questions open"). --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)