From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2357 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2023 21:14:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Aug 2023 21:14:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9058C410F1; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:14:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EECBA410F1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:14:14 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 23:14:12 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Wesley Parish Message-ID: <20230801211412.PZXB-%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <76501721-ab55-0c86-090a-dd06d53dc582@gmail.com> References: <5ec59010-d848-8adc-9872-7a4e6fb599eb@tnetconsulting.net> <20230730203321.QWoHZ%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <76501721-ab55-0c86-090a-dd06d53dc582@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Wesley Parish , coff@tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-499-g5e26999314 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: CAMP4BXSR3OTLECJNY2PYDBKA64P5CIB X-Message-ID-Hash: CAMP4BXSR3OTLECJNY2PYDBKA64P5CIB X-MailFrom: steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: coff@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Typical Fate of Older Hardware List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: [resorting] Wesley Parish wrote in <76501721-ab55-0c86-090a-dd06d53dc582@gmail.com>: |On 31/07/23 08:33, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> Grant Taylor via COFF wrote in |> <5ec59010-d848-8adc-9872-7a4e6fb599eb@tnetconsulting.net>: |>|On 7/29/23 6:26=E2=80=AFPM, segaloco via COFF wrote: |>|> Howdy folks, I wanted to get some thoughts and experiences with regar= ds |>|> to what sort of EOL handling of mainframe/mini hardware was typical. |>| |>|My experience disposing of things is from the late '90s and early '00s |>|and is for much smaller things. So it may very well differ. |> |> Around 1990(+ a bit) i worked during holiday for a company which |> collected old computers, monitors etc from authorities and, well, |> other companies. Myriads of (plastic) keyboards, cables, etc., it |> all was thrown into containers (ie rolled down the floor, then |> blindly thrown), all mixed up. ... |I've also done a fair amount of work breaking up and down old PCs and=20 |Macintoshes, in the early 2000s. | |The business owner talked about getting a furnace built to render down=20 |the old CRTs, but it hadn't happened by the time I left that company,=20 |and I doubt it had happened by the time of the Chirstchurch earthquakes= =20 |2010-2011. I do know we sent the metal cases off to the local metal=20 |recyclers. But what happened to the boards, I have no idea. Yaaaaah, you know, as a native German of age by that time i remember myriads of toxic waste affairs where that shit was shipped to .. sheer "everywhere" (except first and second world, of course). So this was the tip of an iceberg the contours of which were known from many years of newspapers, magazines, good political TV documentations etc, yet the dullness of reality overwhelmed me. And, uh, oh, i acted conforming(ly) (very fast). --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)