From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20734 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2023 01:05:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Sep 2023 01:05:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E9440270; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:05:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E875D4026F for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:04:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 93BDD35E922; Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:04:57 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Anthony Martin Message-ID: <20230916010457.GE31896@mcvoy.com> References: <202309132128.38DLSvEj026719@freefriends.org> <3963d4b9-a866-2e2f-d289-c4f261e1ca7e@mhorton.net> <202309150354.38F3sPjK015761@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: EEGPTFRKKKAZOBKHDWCLPX575SWBSMIW X-Message-ID-Hash: EEGPTFRKKKAZOBKHDWCLPX575SWBSMIW X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The AWK Programming Language, 2nd Ed.: What's new? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I think Mary Ann gets a bit of a pass because she is part of the Unix history. That said, I'm not a fan of people pushing their personal issues into the commons. It's a hard one, you want to support Mary Ann, and people like her, but it's also a bit much to have .signatures pushing their books. I really don't know how to make a call on this, not that it is my place to do so, I'm just trying think it through. Personally, I'd like things to stay more about Unix and COFF stuff and less about personal stuff. Your personal business is your personal business and I'm not a big fan of people making their personal business my business. But that might be just me. On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 04:28:17PM -0700, Anthony Martin wrote: > Warren Toomey via TUHS once said: > > The history of Unix is not just of the technology, but also of the > > people involved, their successes and travails, and the communities > > that they built. Mary Ann referenced a book about her life and > > journey in her e-mail's .sig. She is a very important figure in the > > history of Unix and I think her .sig is entirely relevant to TUHS. > > Are you fine with everyone advertising whatever views > and products they want in their signatures or would I > have to be a very important figure? > > If I want to say, for example, that the vast amount of > software related to Unix that came out of Berkeley was > so harmful it should have a retroactive Prop 65 label, > would that be okay to have in my signature? > > Cheers, > Anthony > > The vast amount of software related to Unix that came > out of Berkeley was so harmful it should have a > retroactive Prop 65 label. > > [Quote from some person completely unrelated to Unix.] > > [A link to buy my children's picture book about the > tenuous connection between Unix and the NATO terror > bombing of Yugoslavia, direct from Jeff Beelzebub's > bookstore.] > > End of signature. > > Sorry Warren, I couldn't help myself. I was "triggered" > just like Dan Cross, previously in that thread, who could > not stay silent. > > "Silence is violence, folx." > - Sus of size (a.k.a. postmodernist Porky Pig) > > Sent to COFF as Dan should have done. -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat