From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8C32B56F for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 03:47:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9FF431E1; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:47:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7BE0431E0 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:47:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 7768235EA76; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:47:47 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: COFF Message-ID: <20240612014747.GE8271@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: OMBM7AEKBLRU7V7SMUTVNKYH56UT7ZXA X-Message-ID-Hash: OMBM7AEKBLRU7V7SMUTVNKYH56UT7ZXA X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Lynn Conway, RIP List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I did not know about the trans part of the story. Go her. It's a loss for all of us. I can relate to the MOSIS part of the story. And I think it brings in John Ousterhout's work on Magic. We used Magic at Wisconsin where I and another student laid out, simulated, and had fabbed at MOSIS, a cache controller. We did _everything right, we simulated it, it worked, sent it off to get fabbed, it came back and it did not work. I looked and looked and looked and what it was? I did not pull ground to a pad. The simulator just assumed that you did that and did not test for that. Live and learn. Mead and Conway were the bible at that point in time. Much respect to both of them. On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 08:51:24PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > There seems to be some confusion, but I've heard enough sources now > that I believe it to be confirmed. Notably, faculty at UMich EECS have > shared that it was passed to them internally. > > RIP Lynn Conway, architect of the VLSI revolution and long-time > transgender activist. She apparently died from heart failure; she was > 86. http://www.myhusbandbetty.com/wordPressNEW/2024/06/11/lynn-conway-january-2-1938-june-9-2024/ > > - Dan C. -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat