From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D5529199 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27B4213F; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:05:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB4A14213C for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:05:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id E829C35EA11; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:05:40 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Adam Thornton Message-ID: <20240715160540.GB5559@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: U2K6Q445YEPTVEPCBJ63FIK57A46UTBQ X-Message-ID-Hash: U2K6Q445YEPTVEPCBJ63FIK57A46UTBQ X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Computer Old Farts Followers X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: The inexorable passage of time List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I _loved_ Mike's book but it was because I read it at the right time. I had ported Lachman's (really Coherent's but Lachman owned the code then) TCP/IP stack to System 5. I thought I knew what I was doing but I didn't, not by a long stretch. I read Mike's book and it was like TCP/IP came into focus for me. I think if you knew too little, or too much, you wouldn't appreciate that book. I read it at the perfect time and I have to say, I think I got more from that book than any other CS book. And his quotes are funny and awesome. On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 08:29:49AM -0700, Adam Thornton wrote: > I was idly leafing through Padlipsky's _Elements Of Network Style_ the > other day, and on page 72, he was imagining a future in which a cigar-box > sized PDP-10 would be exchanging data with a breadbox-sized S/370. > > And here we are, only 40 years later, and 3 of my PDP-10s and my S/370 are > all running on the same cigarette-pack sized machine, which cost something > like $75 ($25 in 1984 dollars). > > Adam -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat