From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22272 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2021 21:49:22 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Oct 2021 21:49:22 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C9F299CADA; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 07:49:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1A59CA44; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 07:49:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 923469CA44; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 07:49:14 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 438 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:49:14 AEST Received: from p3plsmtpa12-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.237]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348819CA3A for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 07:49:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from kilonet.net ([108.30.24.253]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id XsCBms9sxG4OeXsCBmKCHy; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 14:41:55 -0700 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=GbfSISbL c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=615cc6a3 a=DPaANz7MSPdDiKJlpBZCUg==:117 a=DPaANz7MSPdDiKJlpBZCUg==:17 a=8gfv0ekSlNoA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=AoeSMSUmAAAA:8 a=nLtHVdZaYlPtYEU6pOIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=gMyPpFNOQ8RHC2A4ejMA:9 a=nL7-JeY6AP7zFMBx:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=2UY7SMgi64q-0UtCmZ5F:22 X-SECURESERVER-ACCT: krewat@kilonet.net Received: from [199.89.231.103] (flatcat.kilonet.net [199.89.231.103]) by kilonet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF92B21657559 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:41:54 -0400 (EDT) To: coff@minnie.tuhs.org References: From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: <7ab22a1e-c31d-a002-920f-877e20187728@kilonet.net> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:42:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfPln8VFqseK/zdPxwK9xa8wTrvpSjuFKU2D0XFkoG8YYGLjcY7Nxsq96BiC/O9eNfduNmzk4+nv3ZhN1HN3Yzt7TzjkvgK7gST8h9CivaoJ7jUVBOPp+ CCiI3S/izNkBxp7NdD/3utJHui7YlmUFh94D+0sncThjSLE9p3Gfm1SwM/fVKJLV8KuAFfHRFPPJpg== Subject: Re: [COFF] TOPS-10 question X-BeenThere: coff@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1290215600787073311==" Errors-To: coff-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "COFF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1290215600787073311== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6CC87BE314EC8675B2095BEF" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6CC87BE314EC8675B2095BEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There's probably an easier way, but the hacker in me used to do this on TOPS-10 6.0 and up, because of subdirectory support (IIRC). Earlier than 6, it was just *,* dir :[*,*,*,*,*,*,*]filename.ext First two *'s are P,Pn, the next 5 are up to 5 nested subdirectories. Of course, wildcards can be used on the filename.ext, but not leading *'s. SYSSTAT will list "System File Structures". Use those as the above for an exhaustive search. I'm not sure DIRECT can search multiple structures, I think if you did DSKB:,DSKC:[*,*] it would only search DSKC: for [*,*]. For DSKB, it would only show your current P,Pn on that structure. (Unless you used SETSRC to change the search path... I think). As for why it's trying to continually back up AVAIL.SYS, nothing comes to mind. ak On 10/5/2021 5:14 PM, Adam Thornton wrote: > So I have a very vanilla TOPS-10 system running. > > The console is being spammed with: > > [DAEMON: %AVAIL.A77 already used, can't rename AVAIL.SYS] > > Somewhere, evidently, there's a directory of files that are backups of > AVAIL.SYS, and it needs cleaning out.  How do I find that directory? > > Adam > > _______________________________________________ > COFF mailing list > COFF@minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff --------------6CC87BE314EC8675B2095BEF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There's probably an easier way, but the hacker in me used to do this on TOPS-10 6.0 and up, because of subdirectory support (IIRC). Earlier than 6, it was just *,*

dir <structure>:[*,*,*,*,*,*,*]filename.ext

First two *'s are P,Pn, the next 5 are up to 5 nested subdirectories. Of course, wildcards can be used on the filename.ext, but not leading *'s.

SYSSTAT will list "System File Structures". Use those as the <structure> above for an exhaustive search. I'm not sure DIRECT can search multiple structures, I think if you did DSKB:,DSKC:[*,*] it would only search DSKC: for [*,*]. For DSKB, it would only show your current P,Pn on that structure. (Unless you used SETSRC to change the search path... I think).

As for why it's trying to continually back up AVAIL.SYS, nothing comes to mind.

ak

On 10/5/2021 5:14 PM, Adam Thornton wrote:
So I have a very vanilla TOPS-10 system running.

The console is being spammed with:

[DAEMON: %AVAIL.A77 already used, can't rename AVAIL.SYS]

Somewhere, evidently, there's a directory of files that are backups of AVAIL.SYS, and it needs cleaning out.  How do I find that directory?

Adam

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