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From: Lars Brinkhoff <>
To: Dan Cross <>
Cc: Jonathan Gray <>,
	Computer Old Farts Followers <>
Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: project athena (was Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:33:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <> (Dan Cross's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2023 12:19:25 -0500")

Dan Cross wrote:
> Oh yeah, I imagine [SUPDUP] was implemented on Lisp machines, probably
> for connecting to ITS. Lars, do you know?

I don't know if it was first implemented on ITS or Lisp machines, but
one of those two.  SUPDUP is basically just ITS' internal terminal
buffer codes for text and cursor movement, adopted as a network
protocol.  So certainly the first SUPDUP server would have been written
for ITS.  Stanford's AI lab also adopted the protocol.  But outside
those two sites, almost no one.

The name comes from "super-duper image mode", shortened to fit ITS' file
name limit of six characters.  On ITS, a terminal may be opened in
"ASCII mode" which means control chacters are interpreted.  In "image
mode" most control characters are passed through verbatim.  There's a
special "super-image mode" where *all* characters are passed through.
So "super-duper image mode", then, alludes to the fact that even the
normally invisible internal codes are passed through.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-02-10  6:19           ` Lars Brinkhoff
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2023-02-10 10:12               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-10 15:25                 ` Warner Losh
2023-02-10 15:33                   ` Dan Cross
2023-02-10 15:44                     ` Clem Cole
2023-02-10 17:19                       ` Dan Cross
2023-02-10 18:33                         ` Lars Brinkhoff [this message]
2023-02-10 18:43                           ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-10 18:44                         ` Warner Losh
2023-02-10 18:53                           ` Warner Losh
2023-02-10 18:21                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-10 20:21                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-10 18:34                     ` Warner Losh

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