Nice article https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/science/donald-knuth-computers-algorithms-programming.html Near the end, in the picture labelled "a few notes" you can see the corner of what looks like a calculator. Can anybody identify it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200802/6da258ad/attachment.htm>
Interesting article. I don't believe that's a calculator. Rather, it looks like a normal, if slightly grotty, keyboard. - Dan C. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 8:51 PM Paul Palmer <paul.allan.palmer at gmail.com> wrote: > Nice article > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/science/donald-knuth-computers-algorithms-programming.html > > > Near the end, in the picture labelled "a few notes" you can see the corner > of what looks like a calculator. Can anybody identify it? > _______________________________________________ > COFF mailing list > COFF at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200802/334ff23e/attachment.htm>
On 08/02/20 21:02, Dan Cross wrote: > Interesting article. > > I don't believe that's a calculator. Rather, it looks like a normal, > if slightly grotty, keyboard. It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around. (A larger image is here: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/18/science/18SCI-KNUTH3/merlin_148127301_135dcdcd-2f22-47d1-a749-1b0d997864e5-articleLarge.jpg) N. > > - Dan C. > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 8:51 PM Paul Palmer <paul.allan.palmer at gmail.com > <mailto:paul.allan.palmer at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Nice article > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/science/donald-knuth-computers-algorithms-programming.html > > > Near the end, in the picture labelled "a few notes" you can see > the corner of what looks like a calculator. Can anybody identify it? > _______________________________________________ > COFF mailing list > COFF at minnie.tuhs.org <mailto:COFF at minnie.tuhs.org> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff > > > > _______________________________________________ > COFF mailing list > COFF at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200802/863d634a/attachment.htm>
Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com> writes: > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around. It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros. -- Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org> <http://offog.org/>
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:22 PM Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org> wrote: > Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com> writes: > > > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around. > > It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like > that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros. > https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6 Indeed, looks like a match. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200803/5f99dabb/attachment.htm>
Wow. An $800 keyboard! And I thought I was driving the McLaren of keyboards with my Kinesis Advantage2, a mere $360 device (mine has the dual Dvorak/QWERTY layout because I keep telling myself that someday I'll learn Dvorak to save what's left of my poor wrists...). My guess was a Logitech G110: similar layout, but rather less expensive. I just realized I sent my reply about that directly to Nemo and forgot to Cc the list. - Dan C. On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:25 AM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:22 PM Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org> wrote: > >> Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com> writes: >> >> > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around. >> >> It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like >> that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros. >> > > https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6 > > > Indeed, looks like a match. > > _______________________________________________ > COFF mailing list > COFF at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200803/5adf4c2b/attachment.htm>
On 08/03/20 09:25, Clem Cole wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:22 PM Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org
> <mailto:ats at offog.org>> wrote:
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> Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com <mailto:cym224 at gmail.com>> writes:
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> > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around.
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> It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like
> that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros.
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> https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6
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> Indeed, looks like a match.
This begs the question: What is Knuth doing with a gaming keyboard? (Did
he miss his Sail Buckey-bits?)
N.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:06 PM Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/03/20 09:25, Clem Cole wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:22 PM Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org > > <mailto:ats at offog.org>> wrote: > > > > Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com <mailto:cym224 at gmail.com>> writes: > > > > > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys > around. > > > > It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like > > that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros. > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6 > > > > Indeed, looks like a match. > > This begs the question: What is Knuth doing with a gaming keyboard? (Did > he miss his Sail Buckey-bits?) I'll bet the "gaming" aspect is immaterial to him and it's just a proxy for "a high quality keyboard". For many years now, his stated life's goal has been to "finish" TAOCP, which I imagine requires a _lot_ of typing on a daily basis. It's no secret that most consumer keyboards are garbage, so I imagine he opts for the higher-end models that are common among gamers simply for the better ergonomics and usability. This has personal resonance for me: I was having really serious problems with RSI (it was sufficiently uncomfortable that it woke me up at night sometimes) that are greatly attenuated since I invested in a Kinesis keyboard and an Evoluent Vertical Mouse. It took about a week to feel comfortable with the keyboard (and it's unique layout actually improved my typing considerably, so that when I use a "normal" keyboard, such as on my laptop, I'm both faster and make fewer mistakes). When I was in the US Marine Corps, an infantryman once told me that a US$200 pair of boots wasn't just an expensive pair of boots, but an investment in one's feet. I view the HCI equipment of one's computer setup similarly: Excellent displays, keyboards and mice are investments in one's ability to work comfortably and productively. - Dan C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200803/b80316bb/attachment-0001.htm>
On 8/3/20 11:13 AM, Dan Cross wrote: > When I was in the US Marine Corps, an infantryman once told me that > a US$200 pair of boots wasn't just an expensive pair of boots, but > an investment in one's feet. A friend of mine said something similar when he spent personal money to put an SSD into his work notebook computer years ago. "It was an investment in myself. I spend 8-12 hours 5 (or more) days a week on my work notebook. So I spent ~150 to make my life better." I ended up doing similar within a couple of months. It was definitely worth it. -- Grant. . . . unix || die -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4013 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200803/ca5006ce/attachment.bin>
[-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1524 bytes --] You can tell it’s a legit hacker keyboard from the shipping: $ 799 99 No Import Fees Deposit & $13.37 Shipping to Hong Kong On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 9:52 PM +0800, "Dan Cross" <crossd at gmail.com> wrote: Wow. An $800 keyboard! And I thought I was driving the McLaren of keyboards with my Kinesis Advantage2, a mere $360 device (mine has the dual Dvorak/QWERTY layout because I keep telling myself that someday I'll learn Dvorak to save what's left of my poor wrists...). My guess was a Logitech G110: similar layout, but rather less expensive. I just realized I sent my reply about that directly to Nemo and forgot to Cc the list. - Dan C. On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:25 AM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:22 PM Adam Sampson <ats at offog.org> wrote: Nemo Nusquam <cym224 at gmail.com> writes: > It does seem like a keyboard, albeit with unusual extra keys around. It's one of the Logitech gaming keyboards - a G19 or something like that. The extra keys can be programmed with macros. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6 Indeed, looks like a match. _______________________________________________ COFF mailing list COFF at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20200804/2015f410/attachment.htm>