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From: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
To: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk>
Cc: coff@tuhs.org
Subject: [COFF] Re: Conditions, AKA exceptions.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:10:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VSLp52gB1+kszMBe3BgxZ+PM2kJwrQgp-z2fBwzAVNosA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230313164718.4169E21F37@orac.inputplus.co.uk>

On 3/13/23, Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> That said, I absolutely loathe exceptions with all my heart.
>
> I'm not a fan either.

Exceptions play merry hell with compiler optimizations.  If you are in
a piece of code where an exception can occur, unless you have
knowledge of the global side-effects of the handler(s) that might get
invoked you must abandon any attempts to do data flow analysis of
global data items.

The C++ Standard Library is fond of using throw and catch exception
handling.  An optimizing compiler pretty much has to throw all data
flow optimization involving global variables, or things passed to a
callee by pointer, if anything in the call chain calls a C++ Standard
Library routine.

From a compiler writer's perspective, the name STD for the C++
Standard Library is most apt.  STD routines are a disease that infects
anything that touches them.

-Paul W.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-13 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-10 17:11 [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: Conditions, AKA exceptions. (Was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Bakul Shah
2023-03-10 17:28 ` segaloco via COFF
2023-03-10 17:34   ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-10 17:35   ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-10 17:42     ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-11 11:28       ` [COFF] Conditions, AKA exceptions Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-12  4:23         ` [COFF] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-12 10:44           ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-12 16:46             ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-12 16:53               ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-10 17:43     ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: Conditions, AKA exceptions. (Was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) segaloco via COFF
2023-03-10 18:03     ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 18:57       ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-10 19:57         ` Marshall Conover
2023-03-13 16:47           ` [COFF] Conditions, AKA exceptions Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-13 17:10             ` Paul Winalski [this message]
2023-03-13 21:12               ` [COFF] " Dave Horsfall
2023-03-10 17:47   ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: Conditions, AKA exceptions. (Was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Bakul Shah

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