From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2157 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2022 15:08:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Jan 2022 15:08:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B6F7E9CFE8; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 01:08:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557BE9CF7E; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 01:08:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="mKiwwJ9H"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 698CB9CF7E; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 01:08:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yb1-f182.google.com (mail-yb1-f182.google.com [209.85.219.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D2739C78F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 01:08:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yb1-f182.google.com with SMTP id g81so15785275ybg.10 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3Pl+Kx8LhaaF3rs9xN9DAAAwMJ9BQ44d0W2NKGchM1A=; b=mKiwwJ9Hv3GWjfklWROlAVsHHc7120cOr6fNmdATmd5A3pYWSzcd72oPI1cKP1wMrl PvMvIsb3z2a272JGU2kSx/UM7TMFA2oU7GuPxGt1eC4lLet1iYM/b8+7wPbl1Ftpq9Oz rCSfNHTlCt50t3yC8DJfuVbLvgX5AnMM8QYjlNuh26fNzOeln0T8al1s55Um+HMJE3s3 U5aodI82vAUdkAvsfd98yPjMGlyeN+p2k8qliCUlbjobJaDIxOBpH9wuCjQHzVkpXCV4 bYbHrDWIfsaVQDQg3q73GhKX+CxjoK+C17IBXNPDemQY5JYSf4VDXpXstYdjJ/YFM9nb rG6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3Pl+Kx8LhaaF3rs9xN9DAAAwMJ9BQ44d0W2NKGchM1A=; b=NTKSFO89qFL4546V7INuBCWc1TCri8J9pbPJ+pKzDEurDRm1j1rYClKwHirYLJ3Pqa OaPtz2AutXBWkJ+7+0FC+mBvfHasJxADpOGaB1Bt0WLKplBoq3QdOpGkLBV3mYUs1+4u q6HdvaDqQFcq5WBcaOMXW8xt6s88En1TsEVatOYFKazV+eH2kfvEeJUk3+JzyVoPde9o IRBz+0mnLLcqAjaLl6dij3XLOQaiykhheMnCupX50FyBqI7BHOJGgXr51ucUSYqdWjR1 xIqDPMQFBlsc/auSErQlL8aCJp4EqHWX9V9p4gf4atBtK9F7UoLlIVhyBiiJMqoefDBo Ixew== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Apb7q3J6cLCSGbetZig9tEYyzx04nHQ6tH3sLWom0DoJoTdXE Qmwe9mOKDsKjmtXx6dOQwGvZsYm9MpIFjWxYnJ4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw62G9TzX5SCtoQu2ujGz/vgkBiggnvx5v7puIfhUZWEcuKbUDQwk5lPM8eOu4fv9kBGRCMkp0otL+NPDAVt7M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:10a:: with SMTP id o10mr6120052ybh.104.1642086515623; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 07:08:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "John P. Linderman" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:08:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Subject: Re: [COFF] Scribe (Typesetting System) and Unix X-BeenThere: coff@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2786567583668527108==" Errors-To: coff-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "COFF" --===============2786567583668527108== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000074499c05d5780f92" --00000000000074499c05d5780f92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 9:57 AM Clem Cole wrote: > below.... [excellent job -- you wrote what I had planned -- few > tweeks/color added below]. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:31 PM Win Treese wrote: > >> Scribe was in the mix after troff and TeX. > > Fun fact, I believe that bwk was Brian's thesis committee > > >> Brian Reid=E2=80=99s observation was that writers should be writing, and >> publishing professionals should design how documents look. > > >> Many of us who wrote articles for the Bell System Technical Journal would disagree. The BSTJ publishers could transform something that made sense when viewed as troff output into unintelligible gibberish. You cannot split a UNIX command line into multiple lines just because it "looks better". Sometimes format really matters. --00000000000074499c05d5780f92 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 9:57 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
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below.... [excellent job -- you wrote what I had planned -- few tweeks/c= olor added below].

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:31 PM Win Treese = <treese@acm.org&= gt; wrote:
Scrib= e was in the mix after troff and TeX.
Fun fact, I belie= ve that bwk was Brian's thesis committee
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Brian Reid=E2=80=99s= observation was that writers should be writing, and publishing = professionals should design how documents look.

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Many of us who wrote articles for the Bell System Technica= l Journal would disagree. The BSTJ =C2=A0publishers could transform something that made= sense when viewed as troff output into unintelligible gibberish. You canno= t split a UNIX command line into multiple lines just because it "looks= better". Sometimes format really matters.
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