The best I could find googling *fujitsu super eagle "glue"* was Introduction to redundant arrays of inexpensive disks ... - IEEE Xplore https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel2/231/7454/00301912.pdf by DA Patterson - ‎1989 - ‎Cited by 324 - ‎Related articles computers, the Fujitsu M2361A "Super Eagle" disk for minicomputers, ..... assembly, with this gluedissolving after the disks had been in the field for 18 months. Tantalizing, but I couldn't dig further, perhaps because I'm not a member of IEEE. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 5:34 PM Rico Pajarola wrote: > if you still have that story, I'd love to hear it. A quick search didn't > turn up anything except that Super Eagles is a Nigerian football team. > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:59 PM John P. Linderman > wrote: > >> I don't have authoritative info on the cause, I'm just repeating what I >> heard. A highly viscous substance like glue would explain why it took so >> long to fail. In any event, it was nasty. Worked perfectly long enough to >> build confidence, then failed spectacularly. It was widespread. I entered a >> "Sysadmin Horror Story" contest at a USENIX (San Diego?), and won with a >> "short story" entry: *Supereagles*. I still have the shark's tooth >> trophy. >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:41 AM Tim Wilkinson wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Interesting that it was the platter bonding. The explanation SI gave us >>> (They sold us the super Eagles along with their controller) was that it was >>> a lubricant. So I had assumed a bearing seal fail. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway after about 4 swap outs and a lot of lifting they lasted a >>> further 15 years until we knocked down the office with the original 750 and >>> its big brother an 8810 still in the computer room as all the resellers >>> wanted certificates of continuing maintenance that would have cost more >>> than they were willing to pay for those vaxs. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* John P. Linderman [mailto:jpl.jpl at gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* 02 July 2019 12:47 >>> *To:* Larry McVoy >>> *Cc:* Clem Cole ; Patrick Finnegan < >>> pat at computer-refuge.org>; COFF ; Tim Wilkinson < >>> tjw at twsoft.co.uk> >>> *Subject:* Re: [COFF] Disk Technology was [Simh] Which PDP-11 to choose >>> >>> >>> >>> There were eagles, and then there were super-eagles. Our experience with >>> eagles was great, and we were eager to try the (larger) super-eagles. We >>> soaked them for a month or so, then put them into production use. >>> Whereupon, they started dropping like flies. It turns out the glue they >>> used to attach the platters to the spindle slowly crept out over time, >>> eventually coming to grief with a read/write head. This experience was >>> wide-spread, and seriously damaged Fujitsu's reputation. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry McVoy wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 09:49:42AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: >>> > An Eagle or Eagle-II was a whole lot lighter (and physically smaller) >>> than >>> > an RP06 or RP07 (or an RM series drive for that matter). It is >>> interesting >>> > to hear you had problems with the Eagles. They were generally >>> considered >>> > the best/most reliable of the day. The SI controller on the Vax was >>> less >>> > so, although many of us in the UNIX community used them. >>> >>> We ran Eagles on the Masscomps we had at Geophysics. Nothing but good >>> things to say about those drives. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> COFF mailing list >>> COFF at minnie.tuhs.org >>> https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff >>> >>> >>> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> <#m_1751084755802734138_m_-5102461650516400670_m_-7814325232288781299_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> COFF mailing list >> COFF at minnie.tuhs.org >> https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: