From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: clemc at ccc.com (Clem Cole) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:00:04 -0500 Subject: [COFF] TECO (was: History of m6?) In-Reply-To: <20191113223101.GA98220@eureka.lemis.com> References: <201911112110.xABLAQfW004396@skeeve.com> <08b6c7ce02adabe45f54621c3cbe9863@firemail.de> <7wy2wjke8k.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <20191113223101.GA98220@eureka.lemis.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:24 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 at 15:06:19 +0000, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > I think just about every DEC computer had a version of TECO, right? > > I don't recall seeing it on our PDP-8 and -12. Does anybody else? > Presumably they were too small for it, but the -8 made up a large part > of DEC's production. > Lar's comment about Richie and Stan having worked on a PDP-8 version sounds reasonable. I don't know Stan's full story as I never worked with him closely, but Lorin Gale hired Richie and Jack into DEC out of Brooklyn Poly to work on the PDP-12 in about 1972; where they had been PDP-10 hackers as students/roommates (and nearly 50 years, multiple children and marriages later, still nearly inseparable/often hard to tell apart). Anyway, the PDP-8 was the development system for the 12. So Richie wanting a more compatible TECO would be something he could/would have created. My memory is that TECO-8 was sort of like the PC's micro-emacs in that is was written in the key/model after it's namesake, using TECO-10 in syntax and commands, but very limited and much smaller and could run on a more resource limited system. It was certainly true for TECO-11 the PDP-10's macros (EMACS) would not work there and I think the same was true for TECO-8. That said, I did not mess with either enough, as I came late the PDP-8/12 work, and really started with PDP-11s and Vaxen. So we would need to talk to a few people a little older, like Richie or Jack Burness who were there. Clem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: