From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18420 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2023 15:45:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Feb 2023 15:45:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC9341C07; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 01:45:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x92e.google.com (mail-ua1-x92e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0DD841BE8 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 01:44:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x92e.google.com with SMTP id r12so1011557uan.12 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 07:44:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=jtH0ytE2+t9oDchjXDzHWTe/sRwpQ/uJEmx7JUMWuJk=; b=VfYwGAU4bfuEq7/1JmXON1AolZ8zd534Ttnv5S5qkBogERgCX/zk8cT/VQTIRcW9FK MHcW8jY8esW81wDY6u2SnLeudYdOqN2nmQrTIvfwuHbLIh+k/r9RNsZh7tlJwg+hOFE0 Qul+XdBxAj+iy2RaFaVTIEoq3Vy6QkKJHU4XY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=jtH0ytE2+t9oDchjXDzHWTe/sRwpQ/uJEmx7JUMWuJk=; b=3VjYPfwbaJ9fqoalYEA0IFcgpmMbyMueETHm2w4/gg7XuQzU03rYs1yY4m8UAkuhx8 J/U1I2WKFYarJENgJkOqdtAAoHAF43Esx5dsZKfOtY2mu8jKhOQkDUDvpuaYvzDgku3h 8pOkhWag5uhcWhRMIafL4z/nGdOAa/sozPuJlFDg56EHwJNNk52GFOlrCzZrnEoVwysh 3ytsbAA6JMIh9HVeFiMIXigtBlzGA58Oxf8/tn88fpFeR6sEcET+Qpd0H7fa2yVhQqyM KYnwD0JR3jcxYnomuwoRBazfrgPiiBrspAWinW4PuOcHrKcQsga0/OlTNJ7NkR6pA9zo qWww== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWUDljTQjCiAAFbEBUeEL3PPSxAKjJ3elNtIgCLHAcSA8MPzJfz 939A63xTz0Z6W2DxyhZRxGH65NKGjhzTuI+dEte1jw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+k0cYwFXso0XLd8mPJA5fkr7fQ+bYFvleCCNBLK2rzp2iniMFkg7DOSbUWbhEHpNKqGc5MY5Li3C5MI5n1Pa8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:3488:0:b0:67f:50ba:4c23 with SMTP id c8-20020ab03488000000b0067f50ba4c23mr3254474uar.11.1676043895592; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 07:44:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3e272d72-b77a-d347-b5c3-7ed19482e5af@gmail.com> <3h5FEAegoTs6FrhHODiW-rBdB59dt_Rmr4G0PIw7flqaJLsmorgPsilm4f2aJkDud-qEljDjnCJcE1uY05Iw4HNQcyNG4W3wzVlLD0UZfLg=@protonmail.com> <7wttzu3uvh.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <7wlel54ynd.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:44:29 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dan Cross Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000066fd805f45a613d" Message-ID-Hash: 5YYOQY5YCSX35KBGXDBJYQFL2NL6NHL3 X-Message-ID-Hash: 5YYOQY5YCSX35KBGXDBJYQFL2NL6NHL3 X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Jonathan Gray , Computer Old Farts Followers X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: project athena (was Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS) List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000066fd805f45a613d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:34 AM Dan Cross wrote: > If I recall correctly (and it's been a while...) csup, CVSup, et al > were based on `sup`, which was a file distribution tool somewhat like > `rdist`, which came from CMU. csup/cvsup was optimized for moving > source code deltas (a la CVS repositories) around. I recall a > graphical client written in Modula-3? > Right -- ??maybe?? Bob Baron or one of the Mach guys did it - used the DEC Modula-3 IIRC. > > The SUPDUP protocol used by ITS hosts was a "Display Protocol" based > on TELNET: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc734 Exactly - popular with the LISP hackers. I started to implement it in the CMU Distributed Front-End years ago but never finished it - I don't know if it was ever completed. =E1=90=A7 --000000000000066fd805f45a613d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:3= 4 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com= > wrote:
If I= recall correctly (and it's been a while...) csup, CVSup, et al
were based on `sup`, which was a file distribution tool somewhat like
`rdist`, which came from CMU. csup/cvsup was optimized for moving
source code deltas (a la CVS repositories) around. I recall a
graphical client written in Modula-3?
Right -- ??m= aybe?? Bob Baron or one of the Mach=C2=A0guys did it=C2=A0 - used the DEC M= odula-3 IIRC.=C2=A0

The SUPDUP protocol used by ITS hosts was a "Display Protocol" ba= sed
on TELNET: https://www.rfc-editor.org/r= fc/rfc734
Exactly - popular=C2=A0with the LISP hac= kers.=C2=A0 I started to implement it in the CMU Distributed Fro= nt-End years ago but=C2=A0never finished it - I don't know if it was ev= er completed.
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