From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: clemc at ccc.com (Clem Cole) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:26:33 -0500 Subject: [COFF] Most folks here started their OS learning with Unix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BTW: that was cut/pasted from my quora answer: Clem Cole's answer: Which Linux kernel version's source code is better for newbie to read? ᐧ ᐧ On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:23 AM Clem Cole wrote: > The architects of MIT's 6.828 course "Operating Systems Engineering") were > unsatisfied with the current stable of systems for teaching, so they did a > reimplementation of 6th Edition in modern ANSI C (with a couple of GNU > extensions for things like assigning names to registers) targeting a > multiprocessor x86. > > As I look it, it is a clean interesting, and accessible piece of work. As > the person that mentioned it to be said: "a modern take on a classic" - the > course if being offered this fall at the URL: 6.828 / Fall 2014 > > > The latest xv6 source is available via > git clone git://pdos.csail.mit.edu/xv6/xv6.git > > > Tools are can be found at: 6.828 / Fall 2014 > > > Using the MIT course or the Lion's text will teach how the kernel works > and how a user program interacts with it. IMO: Lion's commentary is super > and 100% of the source is there to read and ponder. Please remember that > generations of the best kernel hackers started with this document (although > some of us predate it - but when I saw it I made a copy). > > And as I said, I just looked at the MIT documents and they are awesome > too; but I have just opened them up and have not yet gotten a chance to try > the exercises. > > What is even cooler is if you want to try xv6 - it will just run on your > system using QEMU (which the MIT folks point too - they even made some mods > to QEMU to help with their project). > ᐧ > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:00 AM David wrote: > >> Myself it was v6 (most likely the typesetter version). >> >> What I’d like to see discussed is how people today learn to write, >> enhance, design, and otherwise get involved with an OS. >> >> When I was teaching at UCSD my class on Unix Internals used writing a >> device driver as the class project and covered an overview of the Unix OS >> using the Bach book. Even then (the late 80’s) it was hard to do a deep >> dive into the whole of the Unix system. >> >> Today Linux is far too complex for someone to be able to sit down and >> make useful contributions to in a few weeks possibly even months, unlike >> v6, v7 or even 32v. By the time of BSD 4.1[a,b,c] and 4.2 those had >> progressed to the point that someone just picking up the OS source and >> trying to understand the whole thing (VM, scheduling, buffer cache, etc) >> would take weeks to months. >> >> So what is happening today in the academic world to teach new people >> about OS internals? >> >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> COFF mailing list >> COFF at minnie.tuhs.org >> https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: