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  • * [COFF] Joys of PL/I [Was: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation]
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    @ 2021-11-16 18:54 ` Nemo Nusquam
      2021-11-16 19:40   ` Charles H Sauer
      2021-11-16 20:20   ` Bakul Shah
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    From: Nemo Nusquam @ 2021-11-16 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: coff
    
    On 2021-11-16 09:57, Douglas McIlroy wrote:
    > The following remark stirred old memories. Apologies for straying off
    > the path of TUHS.
    >
    >> I have gotten the impression that [PL/I] was a language that was beloved by no one.
    > As I was a designer of PL/I, an implementer of EPL (the preliminary
    > PL/I compiler used to build Multics), and author of the first PL/I
    > program to appear in the ACM Collected Algorithms, it's a bit hard to
    > admit that PL/I was "insignificant". I'm proud, though, of having
    > conceived the SIGNAL statement, which pioneered exception handling,
    > and the USES and SETS attributes, which unfortunately sank into
    > oblivion. I also spurred Bud Lawson to invent -> for pointer-chasing.
    > The former notation C(B(A)) became A->B->C. This was PL/I's gift to C.
    >
    > After the ACM program I never wrote another line of PL/I.
    > Gratification finally came forty years on when I met a retired
    > programmer who, unaware of my PL/I connection, volunteered that she
    > had loved PL/I above all other programming languages.
    
    My first language was actually PL/C  (and the computer centre did not 
    charge for runs in PL/C).  I needed to use PL/I for some thesis-related 
    work and ran into the JLC wall -- no issues with the former, many issues 
    with the latter.  One of the support people, upon learning that I was 
    using PL/I, said: "PL/I's alright!"
    
    N.
    
    >
    > Doug
    
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  • * Re: [COFF] [TUHS] Book Recommendation
    @ 2021-12-06 14:29 Noel Chiappa
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    From: Noel Chiappa @ 2021-12-06 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: coff, tuhs; +Cc: jnc
    
    OK, this is my last _civil_ request to stop email-bombing both lists with
    trafic. In the future, I will say publicly _exactly_ what I think - and if
    screens still had phosphor, it would probably peel it off.
    
    I can see that there are cases when one might validly want to post to both
    lists - e.g. when starting a new discusson. However, one of the two should
    _always_ be BCC'd, so that simple use of reply won't generate a copy to
    both. I would suggest that one might say something like 'this discussion is
    probably best continued on the <foo> list' - which could be seeded by BCCing
    the _other_.
    
    Thank you.
    
          Noel
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