* Re: [COFF] [TUHS] head/sed/tail (was The Unix shell: a 50-year view) [not found] ` <7wczriptt4.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> @ 2021-07-16 17:53 ` John Cowan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread From: John Cowan @ 2021-07-16 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Brinkhoff; +Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 626 bytes --] [-TUHS] [+COFF] On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 4:06 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote: On ITS it only ever stored characters as full 36-bit words! So sizeof > char == 1 == sizeof int. This is allowed per the C standard. (Maybe it > was updated somewhere else, I dunno.) > The ZETA-C compiler ran on the Symbolics Lisp Machine and translated C into Zetalisp; since everything was a Lisp object, from the C perspective all elementary types had sizeof == 1 also. The modern Vacietis compiler to Common Lisp uses the same design for its data, though it does not share any code. C pointers are represented by CL closures. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1199 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 141 bytes --] _______________________________________________ COFF mailing list COFF@minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 2+ messages in thread
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* Re: [COFF] [TUHS] head/sed/tail (was The Unix shell: a 50-year view) [not found] ` <sJcciGiSe1mW1C4dAjtJVprKlulsY_RuI4ysfNkXOV7-8tlkBy3v_TA9PNdLrSlcgc3H5_cdDcsqOHjusPrl9ouKrEovkZ9eb5O2w4g2uRM=@jfloren.net> @ 2021-07-16 15:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff 0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2021-07-16 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Floren; +Cc: coff Moved to the COFF list. > Yes, WAITS is what I was thinking of. As I mentioned in my previous > mail, it feels like the SAIL timesharing systems get mentioned briefly > in a lot of accounts of historical computing, sometimes with mention > that they had some sort of (relatively) advanced video terminals, but > no in-depth descriptions of the actual hardware/software environment. I agree WAITS gets very little attention, particularly in relation to the great number of things pioneered at SAIL. I'm involved making emulators for some of the hardware. SAIL started out with a couple PDP-1 timesharing systems with vector displays from Philco. But that's almost a pre historical era. The PDP-6/10 started with another vector system from III. It could support up to 12 displays, but only ever had 6. A raster display system was added in the early 70s. It must have been one of the very first bitmapped display systems. It came from the Data Disc company and used disk for storage. It was dual ported: the computer could write data, and the displays could read. 64 displays were supported. The III and DD displays used the SAIL keyboard which introduced the META key. The Data Disc displays and SAIL keyboard heavily influenced Tom Knight at MIT to make a similar system for their AI lab PDP-10 running ITS. _______________________________________________ COFF mailing list COFF@minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 2+ messages in thread
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