From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6756 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2023 21:22:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Feb 2023 21:22:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114A0432D8; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:22:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com (mail-lf1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::133]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C008F432D6 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:22:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id g17so10422928lfv.4 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:22:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0tg2PuLRh12sT8PshNJYK/kAsmA8N76nRDselI+wXvU=; b=PLwna40/w8Bitf+uDvq3zFMY0Cy5jmnhcVziLfrKMjzXUECXVHZHXcO7Xq+X/zpyEB mpr2u0TE/94CpYDNymGDaStNWrxuz6uIYF4ud9dZWZR/fwNMtVShjw2nzV4YglypfWgj 7cjxQrHO7kkio++D0/KaEgxFXEK6F2Z7Bg1kAGUre9rMsNPT+kZSaddx2SK38KUTbt03 OUOP44mDL4rQrRIGjDSOFzzcY/IUtmfRNoIEAyM7XWEOkpmLbDKLY7MgUAMm+y5y7Jws dASEI0T23BJKe9VcC1Vl6SWpllhMJAWodI9yIIoVzR+tXSGuvOn2mXF2FYYYXMqBqr12 1aaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0tg2PuLRh12sT8PshNJYK/kAsmA8N76nRDselI+wXvU=; b=aYMtKAEItf1AKCBqq5qDqSc7tM7v9ehUlxISu9ipYRyKm+gYGbvAj7AwjSzVGZHrup 70DVLJhd46GDtiWmTrZZKgFIo85L2uaeKF4DLnFqjJbpsjjHlxlTNA8N+K+aFuAoprHY IDrgSbaRRdBQN64u7Qgs5+WrWHUSVXr/7o6IhIuOQFbephFIGGIBAvoK8UL/lgD4Al2D yOOL6VnE0WG/zbe6IpopfyQbmB9JRqvlSe3rZrbDBpiNPqdntewHUqSOvp4NvH3632yF NArcLRnSxu/TVlORQI+IhB+CmRUjVHBnCwHiM1FL0gPxdJHjpFmgJK3hI+uQSGKnXWXR WOHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUr4NISevlE7KUlzlcpsCHAgXGEa3FrWUDyfkv4QdSG8QdiHzSw scmQ1I9wNY7T0BYMaCx9HHSIZeqOeU83vYaOHuQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/VCzaZKT3A0QXSbKN8i3gmg9OoLMvZXQjsFr8Sf9O9ZO38JkjwAsr2/TdNOnbTE3bI8LGqVuskMf88f3rEoOM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:554b:0:b0:4dc:807a:d149 with SMTP id l11-20020ac2554b000000b004dc807ad149mr7973249lfk.10.1677532960627; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:22:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16241ceb-fe92-7f25-bda0-0b327847728d@case.edu> <735c811e-62ce-5384-b83f-a3887baac89d@case.edu> In-Reply-To: <735c811e-62ce-5384-b83f-a3887baac89d@case.edu> From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: chet.ramey@case.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: VT2VOGBZPT6S5U7IRGYQMD3EM3ALJY6V X-Message-ID-Hash: VT2VOGBZPT6S5U7IRGYQMD3EM3ALJY6V X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: segaloco , COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: Generational development [was Re: Re: Early GUI on Linux] List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: [COFF] On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 4:16 PM Chet Ramey wrote: > On 2/27/23 4:01 PM, segaloco wrote: > > The official Rust book lists a blind script grab from a website piped into a shell as their "official" install mechanism. > > Well, I suppose if it's from a trustworthy source... > > (Sorry, my eyes rolled so hard they're bouncing on the floor right now.) I find this a little odd. If I go back to O'Reilly books from the early 90s, there was advice to do all sorts of suspect things in them, such as fetching random bits of pieces from random FTP servers (or even using email fetch tarballs [!!]). Or downloading shell archives from USENET. And of course you _can_ download the script and read through it if you want. And no one forces anyone to use `rustup`. Most vendors ship some version of Rust through their package management system these days. - Dan C.