From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14108 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2023 17:18:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2023 17:18:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7242432; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 03:18:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f44.google.com (mail-lf1-f44.google.com [209.85.167.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 631E54241D for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 03:17:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f44.google.com with SMTP id f34so24493750lfv.10 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:17:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AniomCJlhzlCl2YuBVe61IV+dX4BlKHwtE/S8A6TQs8=; b=lLSKRpWJ2Su/RKjs0jCTkZL0f447MFJGHlvkyzXy5d7WdFyws1D9W+meS7dQ9jBu5b DjArIiBfn8x9p5tO8GrNc4i9GhYpve+f0PocX2EHfYXwZXpcrDutoVJLy7rt6Ja0ItIK qr+TE4hT1gFU0p71FWGyA7kG/Sdk/Vyxexdc9lMNgEVLxlBv2mGsDMzK0xFEWWkbFEaa bHCf1ZTEKLY0YxUWri+hgNPqfwmy/qLGt2a7YdH/H9xK7Sd756ylUugTEiD3bmf7aAof B5jaZgJPxu4dYuPHa+zi6W3VlGbCBdBMOB8G+g12Htm+bmV/coSYyiOx5UNWw/8+xqRj n4aQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AniomCJlhzlCl2YuBVe61IV+dX4BlKHwtE/S8A6TQs8=; b=IC6pDlO5r/giWJbfLEO8bqYiY7NzDoAwKmgcXN93Hw11RJOzTEPF9TRKfHwyu8+2de aTArui/kwmqe+/5UoRifh5UhLPhYtZ8uM1HAeSNWChSHj20Rt/CgNfNAzbkOynHVJPgM a8Hc/dD4xy6TiscGp7NoISR/m5B0Lsa5PhBbXSUjhdW9MOJKIov7ZMhK47UQbyrBS/wB k8nTVhOcoYliCXgKfEuGN9xa2ZsfOjwr2Q8x5ydf8au/kWXBc0yH5BAWUQO2qZ7/P2St uVyyRzLa9hteKnXBNvcMvYlAZNtuGrDsGndnDS/o0P0bT6/f1iIDuQcRT+FfTI7sjK0f sypw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqU9zLA1aH1qm7yER708sgN1YAj24Ojg5Z3CC64CF+VP4N4WvgE SPLVtf9QRA2rkHn5OHQYhgYpVYCp0sCu+AR4/jC45C0KIFk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtj/q2unSTPBjbk3rPcsTmUJF2nH4rJa4vnI/wECCj0hfcoUIooUmX27sQ2jU2dSvyyiU3u/X4Aw/FvEjCz5tI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3f20:b0:4cb:40b:e320 with SMTP id y32-20020a0565123f2000b004cb040be320mr2490802lfa.373.1674580611064; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Cross Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 12:16:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: COFF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: AZROI7HFHKSWXWQDTA5LPFORWVQUHMIH X-Message-ID-Hash: AZROI7HFHKSWXWQDTA5LPFORWVQUHMIH X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Fwd: How did Bell Labs start to work on Project MAC? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: [Bcc: to TUHS as it's not strictly Unix related, but relevant to the pre-history] This came from USENET, specifically, alt.os.multics. Since it's unlikely anyone in a position to answer is going to see it there, I'm reposting here: >From Acceptable Name : >Did Bell Labs approach MIT or was it the other way around? >Did participating in Project MAC come from researchers requesting >management at Bell Labs/MIT or did management make the >decision due to dealing with other managers in each of the two >organizations? Did it grow out of an informal arrangement into >a format one?" These are interesting questions. Perhaps Doug may be in the know? - Dan C.