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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: COFF <coff@tuhs.org>
Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 13:48:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7a-qWv5=9zA6bTx+54R95LoaBV-LEDjrh0XgzeYif-xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W7A==NC+W+H+kZbUZ6AK2O-cUjwjUz_Gx_HY_BKfeeBqA@mail.gmail.com>

[Apologies for resending; I messed up and used the old Minnie address
for COFF in the Cc]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 1:36 PM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 1:13 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> > Maybe this should go to COFF but Adam I fear you are falling into a tap that is easy to fall into - old == unused
> >
> > One of my favorite stores in the computer restoration community is from 5-10 years ago and the LCM+L in Seatle was restoring their CDC-6000 that they got From Purdue.   Core memory is difficult to get, so they made a card and physical module that could plug into their system that is both electrically and mechanically equivalent using modern semiconductors.   A few weeks later they announced that they had the system running and had built this module. They got approached by the USAF asking if they could get a copy of the design.  Seems, there was still a least one CDC-6600 running a particular critical application somewhere.
> >
> > This is similar to the PDP-11s and Vaxen that are supposed to be still in the hydroelectric grid [a few years ago the was an ad for an RSX and VMS programmer to go to Canada running in the Boston newspapers - I know someone that did a small amount of consulting on that one].
>
> One of my favorite stories along these lines is the train signalling
> system in Melbourne, running on a "PDP-11". I quote PDP-11 because
> that is now virtualized:
> https://www.equicon.de/images/Virtualisierung/LegacyTrainControlSystemStabilization.pdf
>
> Indeed older systems show up in surprising places. I was once on the
> bridge of a US Naval vessel in the late '00s and saw a SPARCstaton 20
> running Solaris (with the CDE login screen). I don't recall what it
> was doing, but it was a tad surprising.
>
> I do worry about legacy systems in critical situations, but then, I've
> been in a firefight when the damned tactical computer with the satcomm
> link rebooted and we didn't have VHF comms with the battlespace owner.
> That was not particularly fun.
>
>         - Dan C.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-02 18:50 UTC|newest]

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2022-12-31 11:57             ` [COFF] fmt Strings. (Was: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell) Ralph Corderoy
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2023-01-02 18:48                           ` Dan Cross [this message]
2023-01-02 19:53                             ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] A few comments on porting the Bourne shell Adam Thornton
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2023-01-03 23:02           ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: Command Line Editing in the Terminal Driver (Was: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell) Adam Thornton

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