From: rudi.j.blom at gmail.com (Rudi Blom) Subject: [COFF] Architectures -- was [TUHS] 68k prototypes & microcode (Clem Cole) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:15:52 +0700 Message-ID: <CAMYpm84cAgcQu5_Gdphth8=0ZKpzuyiX9iSNO2mV94ae7swcrQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAMYpm86HP5jcqqROYi=s4p76OWfiQ0QBEfw-Eq0yOLHjwyeoAA@mail.gmail.com> Before some start, I didn't mean 25-year old AlphaServers or Itanium boxes. I meant some fine aDEC400Xp and DECpc MTE servers, powered by Intel 80496 (some even 33MHz!). The oldest AlphaServer, a DS10, is from 1996 (has a new motherboard though). The oldest HP rx-server, two rx1620, are from 2006. Cheers, uncle 'miereneuker' rubl On 06/02/2021, Rudi Blom <rudi.j.blom at gmail.com> wrote: > I have to agree with Clem here. Mind you I still mourn the demise of > Alpha and even Itanium but then I never had to pay for those systems. > I only make sure they run properly so the customer can enjoy their > applications. > > My 32-1/2 cents (inflation adjusted). > Take care and stay as healthy as some of my 25 year old servers :-) > Cheers, > uncle rubl > >>From: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> >>To: Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> >>Cc: COFF <coff at minnie.tuhs.org> >>Bcc: >>Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:36:20 -0500 >>Subject: Re: [COFF] Architectures -- was [TUHS] 68k prototypes & microcode > > <snip> >>BTW: Once again we 100% agree on the architecture part of the discussion. >> And frankly >pre-386 days, I could not think how anyone would come up with >> it. As computer >architecture it is terrible, how did so many smart >> people come up with such? It defies >everything we are taught about >> 'good' computer architectural design. But .... after all of >the issues >> with the ISA's of Vax and the x86/INTEL*64 vs. Alpha --- is how I came to >> the >conclusion, architecture does not matter nearly as much as economics >> and we need to >get over it and stop whining. Or in Christensen's view, >> a new growing market is often >made from a product that has technically >> not as good as the one in the original >mainstream market but has some >> value to the new group of people. > <snip> > -- > The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing. > -- The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
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