From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15123 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2023 15:26:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Feb 2023 15:26:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBDD41C0F; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 01:26:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AC2641C0B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 01:25:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id sa10so16752187ejc.9 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 07:25:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xtTjpaFaHDbK0TtILHyo/FHqKbo8lIcJU7fKp7vjWKI=; b=vlXbRe+tNLaMfr+sw/eetMVSwp8j+tXrrZ4TwyLRjvwritX+g+r57CKtZrFYKcUogm muuDSrCE0f1xQnmgJXyT3e/NESxdFSuqNMUWaUKd8V+a+7dsDF6PO7sZ/U+zVJ+OFXzg 4Fp8SHGJiDCWUbqK0iW7VVGvSXoAwYBhqCLG1qhigoFm/3nDo+MtqAA1Oc1NrreX3b2A 9+zkKAoWe97WArfteoHgPf/vqO8WcZdLMvbsYtusWPnVqSrPL8Bx21/P3u09qcleEhOb LFp6Ay2nTmEMUK6V+QjIE0ypjlR3znvk6ZPdsUOY4SrYqrwk+LWRUBUyj+ndTg+jGC4J c1Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=xtTjpaFaHDbK0TtILHyo/FHqKbo8lIcJU7fKp7vjWKI=; b=ik6nzqIpQNtTzgAbM68M4zU9l3CGZdljpx20ZcizH9LGhNXtQOq7N1INIbBSyrCPLi kHyUKsnj9bEuuUl4w4p9KX2Ca6FqW584KSOuMfNe5sHRlZoifraqvsOI0CuZ5O1mKEWO yPMh9FewMArCEyjMN6DD2Vqm5UNaMbKdqZSfkCiqlAapK9sFo+lNn0U3eITv8v4t9ROK Fjwh71j4OR4TooVTUXQt3vG2npz/RS0ZOZ40NJ50wzjLRMCNkMuTawy82JXee0YmNaLm 2s4rkHVmKzmV359ngMKbHY3VRI9gKz/UZeSY0fhiNcIKx7fulP79EdWee+53bwdqc54r WH2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXm+IhgqDDBNt3QEilDu+ETrcQF4+CQ54AEm5APRztGghCYJ8KD 6qd/MghE4VpExnCFtGv5V4rMT2KIoa183GxoqP9I+gV5e545vg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8nGjdvz18imCUrKWGMA/1vBNJgCXBGDQGCq6FuW2B1c3FpzSrtcgvSS4XIe6/FxDyf6eM7mld03ifjgX7AMQk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2f17:b0:888:c14e:70b6 with SMTP id v23-20020a1709062f1700b00888c14e70b6mr3451908eji.306.1676042755731; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 07:25:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3e272d72-b77a-d347-b5c3-7ed19482e5af@gmail.com> <3h5FEAegoTs6FrhHODiW-rBdB59dt_Rmr4G0PIw7flqaJLsmorgPsilm4f2aJkDud-qEljDjnCJcE1uY05Iw4HNQcyNG4W3wzVlLD0UZfLg=@protonmail.com> <7wttzu3uvh.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <7wlel54ynd.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> In-Reply-To: <7wlel54ynd.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 08:25:44 -0700 Message-ID: To: Lars Brinkhoff Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001589bf05f45a1d8b" Message-ID-Hash: SBJYJKKCCXCB5EHAIBIBUKM6TCWZWWF6 X-Message-ID-Hash: SBJYJKKCCXCB5EHAIBIBUKM6TCWZWWF6 X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Jonathan Gray , Computer Old Farts Followers X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: project athena (was Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS) List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000001589bf05f45a1d8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 3:12 AM Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Jonathan Gray wrote: > >> Any chance this DOS supdup software is still around? > > > > https://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/pcip-1985.pdf > > http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/pc-ip/ > > Great, thanks! > > It's a bit sad to read in supdup.mss "Unfortunately, very few machines > have TCP/Supdup servers. The only servers known to us are on Mit-MC and > Su-AI, and 4.2 Unix machines running a server we distribute." At this > point, three old ITS machines had recently fallen over, one after the > other, and MC was the only one left standing. But not long after, four > new ones would appear. One of which is still up and running! > I wonder if this was the same supdup that the early BSDs used to distribute their source in the 90s .. Warner > --0000000000001589bf05f45a1d8b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 3:12 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
Jonathan Gray wrote:
>> Any chance this DOS supdup software is still around?
>
> https://web.mit.edu/Saltze= r/www/publications/pcip-1985.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/pc-ip/=

Great, thanks!

It's a bit sad to read in supdup.mss "Unfortunately, very few mach= ines
have TCP/Supdup servers.=C2=A0 The only servers known to us are on Mit-MC a= nd
Su-AI, and 4.2 Unix machines running a server we distribute."=C2=A0 At= this
point, three old ITS machines had recently fallen over, one after the
other, and MC was the only one left standing.=C2=A0 But not long after, fou= r
new ones would appear.=C2=A0 One of which is still up and running!


I wonder if this was the same supdup that the early BSDs= used to distribute their source in the 90s ..

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Warner
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