From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32050 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2022 17:36:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Dec 2022 17:36:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E58142381; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 03:35:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f42.google.com (mail-ej1-f42.google.com [209.85.218.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CBA242372 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 03:35:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f42.google.com with SMTP id bj12so12859600ejb.13 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 09:35:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Eyp/qpQkxWCA+vCJNFHuLDLUSITlcd6uoK6qLxbHvdw=; b=sqh+ZLT8Lg/hjPaTvu8qIYTNAeG+qiQeh6TtVFL0mXzrk/qsAfPvSS8D3AMAKT1hSU oOBVjT6i7OSjzcD1JdlDYmEgBOecGjxef0+aALfDplJ5VI9YNa4k4ZXnvYhvE4brl6vz 6DCIEjeIQPI/hM1DLETCsp2chgKpe5y4mQ+hGiF5VHxInn+IiyzG1a0TJl5i1mdlxvba SHs2JCQKncq756XIWcJhLaAeINUYwWa9DavEM+5BIYR3lTMkogQryvsA7Nm1b7oLgyr2 FSfEtF5lw0T3zlztQ5RaDEyTEKeLuGDJPKUPnehyRoQAIQIuAtyMGJu4FmQV0p0GS6aa K5dA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Eyp/qpQkxWCA+vCJNFHuLDLUSITlcd6uoK6qLxbHvdw=; b=6SEghrKqfsP7skjGDh5ftg9LFBhKDHTtkuwHNh+REGaMZoCM+stA/VREZWug66Ahyp 8yJcnFXFEZTaTfv3rwBfcN4CPMDRwqiZC0NE8OJFXqTO8P14UvI160jv2HChCgxLnw21 24n+/zFDiTz93gFqixeR3MftGxKbBJDvZAJAKHEMfs0oCfxHyCE3FgX3ejBSp10Uft5n hf4ivEYtsSoLRuYiHYusCwwH3nP37eHHjdkFovTpl2Z1/8OTVAEJ1ZS2ymH1LVU/NY1R 5hh72PL4OqK8EiJ/DGjc+Lr6IESM4NEnQZthlrikrYnvuEUM0FhVb76a0k3zSSmz6GOc Z21w== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmjQQDeOnHXj40XTuIbeJw8HPa1xTzkGNJS4MYYlteKedHt5C/g SBW7krZJm05kwhVeDjROJL2vB8OlQSiHES9YlCqfAA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5uHxVXaMeSpENjvuYmgixdxVXRRStXGDnkY4raiFu8rBxxlOwutPROKEJTi9EUH99MI6CE+BwuT5AS6CaKibA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:29c3:b0:7c0:e0db:f136 with SMTP id y3-20020a17090629c300b007c0e0dbf136mr18948385eje.333.1671298492750; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 09:34:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <50980A95-92AB-45B6-93C0-5639C531AECB@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <50980A95-92AB-45B6-93C0-5639C531AECB@pobox.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:34:41 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Arnold Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f971db05f009805c" Message-ID-Hash: XBHDO2TEHZATKCJCPNUMWYJK7HACJXNY X-Message-ID-Hash: XBHDO2TEHZATKCJCPNUMWYJK7HACJXNY X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Warren Toomey via COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: tvtwm List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000f971db05f009805c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 1:28 AM David Arnold wrote: > I=E2=80=99m wondering if anyone here is able to assist =E2=80=A6 > > tvtwm is Tom LaStrange=E2=80=99s modified version of the twm window manag= er: Tom=E2=80=99s > Virtual TWM. Somewhat unusually, tvtwm modelled the screen as a single > large window and the display was a viewport that could be shifted around > it, rather than the now-standard model of distinct virtual desktops. > > I=E2=80=99m trying to rebuild the history of its releases. I have the in= itial > release, and the first 6 patches Tom published via comp.sources.x, the 7t= h > patch from the X11R5 contrib tape, the 10th patch from the X11R6 contrib > tape, the widely available patch 11, and an incomplete patch 12 via > personal email from Chris Ross, who took over maintenance from Tom at som= e > point. > Tom doesn't have anything from yhis time period.... So, I=E2=80=99m looking for patch 8 and/or patch 9 (either one would do, si= nce I > can reconstruct the other from what I have plus one). > > I=E2=80=99ve failed to find either of them. I=E2=80=99m not sure how the= y were > distributed, and my searches have proven fruitless so far. > > Does anyone here happen to have a trove of X11 window manager source code > tucked away? > During this era there were a dozen or five Internet CDROM collections of sources, etc. You may have to scrounge them to find these... I'll see of any of my images have anything useful... but the initial search isn't looking great... Warner Thanks in advance, > > > > > d > > > --000000000000f971db05f009805c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 1:28 AM David Arnold <davida@pobox.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99m wondering if anyone here is able to a= ssist =E2=80=A6

tvtwm is Tom LaStrange=E2=80=99s modified version of the twm window manager= : Tom=E2=80=99s Virtual TWM.=C2=A0 Somewhat unusually, tvtwm modelled the s= creen as a single large window and the display was a viewport that could be= shifted around it, rather than the now-standard model of distinct virtual = desktops.

I=E2=80=99m trying to rebuild the history of its releases.=C2=A0 I have the= initial release, and the first 6 patches Tom published via comp.sources.x,= the 7th patch from the X11R5 contrib tape, the 10th patch from the X11R6 c= ontrib tape, the widely available patch 11, and an incomplete patch 12 via = personal email from Chris Ross, who took over maintenance from Tom at some = point.

Tom doesn't have anything from yhis time period....

So, I=E2=80=99m looking for patch 8 and/or patch 9 (either one would do, si= nce I can reconstruct the other from what I have plus one).

I=E2=80=99ve failed to find either of them.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not sure how = they were distributed, and my searches have proven fruitless so far.

Does anyone here happen to have a trove of X11 window manager source code t= ucked away?

During this era there were a dozen or five Internet CDROM collec= tions of sources, etc. You may have to scrounge them to find these... I'= ;ll see of any of my images have anything useful... but the initial search = isn't looking great...

Warner

Thanks in advance,




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