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[68.2.246.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3-20020a17090a0cc300b001ec9d45776bsm5018272pjt.42.2022.07.01.22.21.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Jul 2022 22:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) From: Adam Thornton In-Reply-To: <20220702012641.GA84351@eureka.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 22:21:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au> <20220701004118.GA22338@tau1.ceti.pl> <67e0d22c-e70b-e9bb-4614-eb1426bf2bd0@gmail.com> <20220702000828.GB32390@eureka.lemis.com> <20220702012641.GA84351@eureka.lemis.com> To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) Message-ID-Hash: H5ELUURYA2DQBKHEERBW2P73ZMUJO3I4 X-Message-ID-Hash: H5ELUURYA2DQBKHEERBW2P73ZMUJO3I4 X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Safelights (was: "9 skills our grandkids won't have") List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: No idea at all how old it was. I mean, a) I was a kid, and b) it was = the first darkroom I'd ever seen so I had no basis of comparison. I'm = sure it was at least one and maybe more generations of hand-me-down by = the time I got to use it. But, I mean, "good enough for middle school = kids, and we got it for free" was probably good enough, right? Adam > On Jul 1, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey = wrote: >=20 > On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 17:57:35 -0700, Adam Thornton wrote: >> On Jul 1, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey = wrote: >>> On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 20:12:44 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote: >>>> Except that we didn't use red light in our darkrooms at all, at = least >>>> not from the 1970s and on. ... >>>=20 >>> Correct. I started darkroom work in 1964, and from the beginning we >>> used amber safelights. I don't think red safelights have been used >>> since long before that. >>=20 >> When I learned film photography in the mid 1980s the darkroom had >> red lights. Of course it was a very old darkroom in a middle school, >> so I'm sure that _adequate_ darkrooms had better equipment. >=20 > Hmm. Any idea how old the equipment is? I suppose you wouldn't > expect people to replace existing, functional equipment without good > reason. >=20 > Greg > -- > Sent from my desktop computer. > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php