[COFF] termination and untermination of bugtraq mailing list

[COFF] termination and untermination of bugtraq mailing list

[rtomek]

Howdy,

Perhaps this is off topic for this list, if so, apologies in advance.

Or perhaps this will be of interest to some who do not trace yet
another mailing list out there :-).

Two days ago I received a notice that bugtraq would be terminated, and
archive shut down on 31st this month. Only then I realized (looking at
the archive also helped a bit in this) that last post to bugtraq
happened in the last days of Feb 2020. After that, eleven months of
nothing, and shutdown notice. It certainly was not because of list
being shunned, because I have seen posters on other lists cc-ing to
bt, yet their posts never went that route (apparently) and I suppose
they were not postponed either. If they were, I would now get an
eleven months worth of it. But no.

Too bad. I liked bt, even if I had not followed every post.

Today, a notice that they would not terminate bt (after second
thought, as they wrote). And a fresh post from yesterday.

But what could possibly explain an almost year long gap? Their
computers changed owners last year, and maybe someone switched the
flip, were fired, nobody switched it on again? Or something else?

Just wondering.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.      **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home    **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...      **
**                                                                 **
** Tomasz Rola          mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com             **

[COFF] termination and untermination of bugtraq mailing list

[tytso]

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On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 09:58:18PM +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> Perhaps this is off topic for this list, if so, apologies in advance.
> 
> Or perhaps this will be of interest to some who do not trace yet
> another mailing list out there :-).
> 
> Two days ago I received a notice that bugtraq would be terminated...
>
> But what could possibly explain an almost year long gap? Their
> computers changed owners last year, and maybe someone switched the
> flip, were fired, nobody switched it on again? Or something else?

The explanation can be found here:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/iconic-bugtraq-security-mailing-list-shuts-down-after-27-years/

	"... BugTraq itself also exchanged hands several times, from
	Chasin to Brown University, then to SecurityFocus, which was
	acquired by Symantec.

	The portal's demise started in 2019 when Broadcom acquired
	Symantec. Three months later, in February 2020, the site
	stopped adding new content, remaining mostly an empty shell.

	Today, the site's last maintainers confirmed the portal's
	current state of affairs and formalized BugTraq's passing into
	infosec lore."

An update:  https://seclists.org/bugtraq/2021/Jan/1

	"Bugtraq has been a valuable institution within the Cyber
	Security community for almost 30 years. Many of our own people
	entered the industry by subscribing to it and learning from
	it. So, based on the feedback weâve received both from the
	community-at-large and internally, weâve decided to keep the
	Bugtraq list running.  Weâll be working in the coming weeks to
	ensure that it can remain a valuable asset to the community
	for years to come.  - Accenture Security"

	    	     	      - Ted

[COFF] termination and untermination of bugtraq mailing list

[rtomek]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:57:23PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 09:58:18PM +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > 
> > Perhaps this is off topic for this list, if so, apologies in advance.
> > 
[...]
> 
> The explanation can be found here:
> 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/iconic-bugtraq-security-mailing-list-shuts-down-after-27-years/
> 
[...]
> 
> An update:  https://seclists.org/bugtraq/2021/Jan/1
> 
[...]

Ah. Interesting. Thanks. Deeply in my heart I always count on and look
for something more sensationnal. The links above were ok, but, well,
no aliens, no robots from the future. Not even robots from the past...

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.      **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home    **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...      **
**                                                                 **
** Tomasz Rola          mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com             **