From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Clem Cole <email@example.com> Cc: COFF <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Grant Taylor <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [COFF] [TUHS] 386BSD released Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:38:32 -0400 [thread overview] Message-ID: <YPW4mN5m/lwRt4lm@mit.edu> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2Oo7t3CW8jfH6Vwr-f4+B4aW-kZg8BNXGrMjyiXa-z4bQ@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:50:07AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > > Ted -- yes, your generation put a >>name<< to the behavior, which is a > wonderful thing and something you can be proud. But the behavior of openly > sharing your work product with the community long predates, Linux, the > wider Internet, *et al. * It is sad a minimum, if not downright > disingenuous to say "open source" was created at that point. No one said that "open source" was created at that point. The perl, BSD, FSF's emacs, gcc, and other software published under the GPL all predated the definition of the **term** "Open Source". However, I strongly contest the claim that Unix was "Open Source". Unix was the UNPUBLISHED TRADE SECRET of AT&T, and students exposed to Unix source code became contaminated with AT&T's "methods and concepts" clause. So they couldn't even *reimplement* Unix without potentially getting sued by AT&T. I always thought the implementation of /bin/true, which was a shell script where the license statement proclaiming AT&T's copyright was longer than the "exit 0" line, was both incredibly funny, and incredibly sad. Cheers, - Ted _______________________________________________ COFF mailing list COFF@minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff
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