From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16451 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2023 21:27:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jun 2023 21:27:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4E140BA4; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 07:27:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl (mailout2.ceti.pl [62.121.128.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1238402E5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2023 07:26:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D81EBDF for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.ceti.pl Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.42]) by localhost (mailout.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dk338KTYFoWj for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8291EE87 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id AE74F9563; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:53 +0200 From: Tomasz Rola To: Computer Old Farts Followers Message-ID: References: <8d1de5c8-1f34-3d37-395d-0f1da7b062ec@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <20230303105928.E88AB215AA@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <20230303134215.3ED63215AA@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <21e8477c-c388-7b90-ed10-21c7f76f0892@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <20230304101533.D9CCF2021A@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <36b395af-caa2-f685-cc54-5f193cd8b1e2@bl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36b395af-caa2-f685-cc54-5f193cd8b1e2@bl.org> Message-ID-Hash: 57KF3P7XTXMWJ5E6RCELL6JRPLIQZXCF X-Message-ID-Hash: 57KF3P7XTXMWJ5E6RCELL6JRPLIQZXCF X-MailFrom: rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep.) List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:02:33AM -0500, Michael Parson wrote: > On Sat, 4 Mar 2023, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 04:15:33 > > From: Ralph Corderoy > > To: coff@tuhs.org > > Subject: [COFF] Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on > > extended regular expressions in grep.) > > > > Hi, > > > > Grant wrote: > > > Even inventorying and keeping track of the books can be time > > > consuming. -- Thankfully I took some time to do exactly that and have > > > access to that information on the super computer in my pocket. > > > > I seek recommendations for an Android app to comfortably read PDFs on > > a mobile phone's screen. They were intended to be printed as a book. > > In particular, once I've zoomed and panned to get the interesting part > > of a page as large as possible, swiping between pages should persist > > that view. An extra point for allowing odd and even pages to use > > different panning. > > Sorry for responding to an old thread got behind on my list-mail > reading, but I wanted to share my $.02. > > Someone else mentioned an e-book reader app, and I second that, > mostly...Moon+ Reader on Android is the e-book reader I've been using > for a while and it does a good job with standard e-book formats > as well as PDF files, IF the PDF is a PDF of formatted text. It > even has a mode where it will do a pretty decent job of on-the-fly > converting/reformatting the text of the PDF to something that can > actually be read on a small (phone) screen. However, if the PDF is just > a bunch of 1 image per page wrapped in a PDF container, you're out of > luck and back to zoom/pan around the page. > > For most of my digtal book reading these days, I use a Boox e-ink > reader. It runs Android, so, I can use the same e-book reader I used > on my phone. It can even sync where you're at in the book/document via > dropbox and you can move between multiple devices if needed. > > If I want to mark-up the PDF, the built-in stuff on the Boox handles > that nicely. If I'm on my phone, I use an app called Xodo. > > -- > Michael Parson > Pflugerville, TX Hello Michael, I am not challenging your choices (to each his/her own), but to add some alternative, my own preferences go toward: a. have sd card slot in a reader (I mean hardware with e-ink, not some app on a phone). This means a card can be slipped into the box without opening it. This means the box is not water-proof. However, I had a look inside and I suspect it can still be water-prooved with duct tape, if someone wants it so much. b. so far I was rather happy with Linux custom made by manufacturer, but not an Android - I am yet to try Android based ebook reader (but maybe not too fast). Phones with A* are rather lousy at keeping their batteries loaded, I wonder how eink devices fare - do they, too, need to be recharged every day? My reader is recharged every 2-3 weeks, when batt drops to about 70%, while I keep using it at least every second day for few hours at a time. I had once (many years go, when I was to buy my first reader) a dream of browsing web pages with it. However, built in browser in non-A* reader proved to be lousy, equally lousy to browser in A* phones that I have tried. So, my current ereader was never connected to the net because I see no point. Of course each model nowadays comes with wi-fi, it just does not add anything useful so no need to even configure it on home router etc. Nowadays, I would rather convert whatever to pdf or epub and upload to the reader. Reading wikipedia pages printed to pdf saved me plenty of grief, as opposed to trying them in a (builtin) browser. I suspect elinks could look much better, but trying this requires some free time (compiling/porting, uploading). As a side note, I have observed that some pdfs do not render too well on my reader - it seems that they make this software "too new" to be solid & fast nowadays. Same pdfs converted to djvu read like a dream, however. Having more than few supported book formats is nice. My reader also comes with BT, possibly meant to connect headphones but perhaps usable for BT keyboard. Might be a thing to try in a future (or not), I mention it to let others know there may be such an option in case they care about it (I really do not, but I do not make those things so what can I do...). HTH -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **