From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5785 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2023 03:10:21 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Sep 2023 03:10:21 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCEF40291; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:10:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl (mailout2.ceti.pl [62.121.128.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8CF940290 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 13:10:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B8E4487D for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 05:10:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.ceti.pl Received: from mailout2.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.42]) by localhost (mailout.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VavP14IrTXkP for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 05:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout2.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDC94498F for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 05:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id 27B9C7A4; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 05:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 05:10:02 +0200 From: Tomasz Rola To: COFF Message-ID: References: <202309132128.38DLSvEj026719@freefriends.org> <3963d4b9-a866-2e2f-d289-c4f261e1ca7e@mhorton.net> <202309150354.38F3sPjK015761@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Message-ID-Hash: 3XVNCU2KOWPFXDZVC5YLFHNSIG5FFWTH X-Message-ID-Hash: 3XVNCU2KOWPFXDZVC5YLFHNSIG5FFWTH X-MailFrom: rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: The AWK Programming Language, 2nd Ed.: What's new? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 04:28:17PM -0700, Anthony Martin wrote: > Warren Toomey via TUHS once said: > > The history of Unix is not just of the technology, but also of the > > people involved, their successes and travails, and the communities > > that they built. Mary Ann referenced a book about her life and > > journey in her e-mail's .sig. She is a very important figure in the > > history of Unix and I think her .sig is entirely relevant to TUHS. > > Are you fine with everyone advertising whatever views > and products they want in their signatures or would I > have to be a very important figure? Absolutely not ok with "whatever", no matter how important the advertiser is. I have some limits myself, so weapon shops, for example, would not be cool for me, but I do not think I would go so far as to complain. Well, maybe adverts about non-lawful behaviour or proposing mass slaughter of wild animals etc could tick me off. However, I am always looking onto other people's sigs. This helps me to build a mental model of the person. Also, I think there is software to filter such things off, if they are not desired by someone (to the point that they do not even want to know about it). Heck, this is a group for Unix groupies and the subject is AWK. All in all, if their messages are useful/meaningful and their signatures are small by comparison and not offensive/distasteful, I do not think I personally may have much problem, even if maybe I would not go for a beer with this or that particular sender, because of gray zone of "not quite offensive but". Or, on a sunny day, I might actually drink that beer because more optimism about human nature and everybody deserves a chance. [...] > The vast amount of software related to Unix that came > out of Berkeley was so harmful it should have a > retroactive Prop 65 label. You can be sure you would be asked for explanation. BTW if this is not joke, please explain. > [Quote from some person completely unrelated to Unix.] Out of curiosity, is there a quote of Adolf Hitler which would be related to Unix? Just the first unrelated person which came to my mind... > [A link to buy my children's picture book about the > tenuous connection between Unix and the NATO terror > bombing of Yugoslavia, direct from Jeff Beelzebub's > bookstore.] Oh. Does your (inner?) child propose it happened because of Unix or some software error? From what I have read, there is a chance paper index cards were more involved in those events than computers. I am always interested in learning some more (mostly as someone who has problem with managing personal information rather than a future would-be planetary dictator). No offence meant, if you are one of those easily triggered. Mostly, it is just my curiosity playing. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **