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From: dave at horsfall.org (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: [COFF] In Memoriam: Jay W. Forrester, happy birthday Gene Amdahl, and LSD
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 09:42:47 +1100 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1911160930080.408@aneurin.horsfall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99f46273-e2a4-4a82-f827-8c00fb48f633@kilonet.net>

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Arthur Krewat wrote:

> How did Amdahl get away with making 360 clones? I would have thought 
> that IBM would have crushed his bones into dust.

Clones in the way that they were able to run OS/360; that's about all that 
I can remember.  Hitachi also came out with a clone, as did no doubt many 
other manufacturers; after all, the instruction set was public 
knowledge...

I dimly recall that some opcodes had undocumented side-effects, so in 
theory (and likely in practice) OS/360 could detect whether it was running 
on a clone, and "fail to proceed" (in Rolls Royce terms).

My favourite /360 instruction on our customised system was "SVC 254" which 
got you supervisor mode (long story, depending upon the statute of 
limitations).  The operators and I had a love-hate relationship i.e. they 
loved to hate me :-)  Soon after I got a job with them i.e. better to keep 
me inside the tent than out...

-- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-15 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-15 21:54 dave
2019-11-15 22:26 ` krewat
2019-11-15 22:42   ` dave [this message]
2019-11-16  7:23     ` peter
2019-11-16 16:25       ` clemc
2019-11-17  5:14       ` dave
2019-11-18 16:42         ` clemc
2019-11-18 18:45           ` bakul
2019-11-18 19:19             ` clemc
2019-11-19 20:21             ` peter
2019-11-19 23:17               ` cym224
2019-11-21 19:48           ` dave
2019-11-15 23:19   ` clemc
2019-11-15 23:47     ` krewat
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-15 22:33 dave

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